Game 111, Orioles at Mariners
DMZ · August 3, 2008 at 12:10 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Cabrera v Silva. If Silva’s back holds out.
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ah, Edgar helping honor Dave. man, I miss him.
Silva’s back will hold up just long enough to put them into an insurmountable hole. The faster he gives up runs, the sooner Riggleman will come out and diagnose his suckimax dorsi.
It’s a beautiful Sunday afternoon, so fire up the grill and throw on some Silva Burgers. Wash ‘em down with a Nice Tall Glass of Sucktitude, brought to you by the Mariners Front Office, signing awful pitchers well above market price since 2006.
On the plus side, the lineup is entirely defensible other than the ever-present Turbonator at DH.
FWIW, Riggleman claims he had to pry Silva off the mound last start …. hmm. burgers.
Is there any reason to watch this game? I’m willing to be convinced.
And in less than two minutes, Blowers gives us THREE “no question about it,” while Dave Sims throws one in too…four in a little over a minute…that a record?
Thankfully the hydro races are on, so I have something to switch to once Silva coughs up his normal half dozen runs in the first 3 innings.
Nationals won!
maybe they’ll show Edgar again?
If you’ve accidentally ingested something toxic, it may help make you wretch.
But I have his rookie card on my mantle, complete with sweet moustache, which I can look at any time I want. Yours is as good a reason as any though.
Another one of those extra base thingies!
Nah, I’m OK right now.
On the radio side, Rizzy continues to rave about how great Jeremy Guthrie was last night. What he fails to mention, however, is that the M’s are so cursed against the O’s this year that the Oriole batboy could probably go out to the mound and look like the Second Coming of Jim Palmer for five innings against this lineup.
Hey, the M’s have a run on the board, a man on third with no outs, and Silva on the mound. Speaking of which, why don’t we pull him for long relief?
Make that 2 runs, sac fly baby!
I’m holding out hope that they’ll let Edgar bat.
Oh, come now, Rizzy…why would we need a Zeek’s Pizza when we have Silva Burgers on the grill?!
Dave mentions the “pitcher’s best friend,” forgetting that Silva is out there. I don’t think baseball’s official rules allow in-inning deliveries of pizza to the mound.
Gosh, it is so depressing watching Silva throw. Words can’t even explain.
Well, congratulations Carlos for protecting that lead for all of, like, five minutes.
Gee, that took a while.
The condiments are falling off of the Silva Burger.
Wow, thanks Adrian. Keeps this from being a 6 run inning.
Heeeeeeeeere we go!!!
Beltre rules…period…
That’s why the guys always keep a supply of those microwavable DiGiornos down in the clubhouse freezer.
think I’ll go get my Edgar Starting Line-Up & put it on top of the tv.
Vidro is freakin majestic!
Maybe Silva’s back hurts…
or
his tummy is growling.
Silva is the fat, hispanic Jeff Weaver…
That will probably help a little.
Yes, but even Spicoli would throw one quality start every month or so — whether he needed to or not.
Khalil Greene isn’t a pitcher!
The Weaver brothers and Khalil Greene — triplets separated at birth!
Did Yuni take running lessons from Raul during his time off? What the hell was that, all flapping arms and jerking knees? Hardly making himself aerodynamic.
I think Silva is channeling HoRam as opposed to Weaver. I’d have to take my chances with Weaver if picking between the 3. I think we can pass the gas can mantle to Carlos at this point.
Er? WTF? Why is that fan being given the ball? Shouldn’t he be given help to the door?
ETA: Quick, Bad Fan, wipe the chalk off that ball.
It seemed like the ump took a really long time to call it fair
Had to chuckle at last night’s “Junior Sportscaster”…this kid’s favorite Mariner was Yuni, and of course, Rizzs asked him why. The kid answers, “because he’s fast.”
Ah, the detrimental effects of the Vidro Factor on impressionable youngsters!
I want to thank Dave Niehaus for letting me know when the Blue Angels started. I’ll switch back to the game when their show is over.
one of Drayer’s gripes– she claims Yuni may be faster than Ichiro, and why he doesn’t apply that to the basepaths more …
Dammit Yuni! Idiot….
With each passing game, my dislike for Yuni grows…he had such a promising career ahead of him…
That was Reed’s ball all the way…he had no business out there…
Vidro’s at bats are AWESOME!
Actually, there may be something to that with certain guys. Having watched the Tigers a lot when I was younger, I always wondered why “Sweet” Lou Whitaker never ran more than he did. Despite the fact that he ended his career with only 143 SB’s, it always seemed like he was about the fastest guy on the team back in those days.
ok, mini-Gar is dusted off and placed on top. We’ll see if it helps.
Just for yucks, I looked at all the DH’s who started in games last night (Saturday). So this is not necessarily people who play DH the most, just those that were run out there by each AL team last night.
Here they are, in order of OPS+:
141 Huff Bal
135 Thome CWS
126 Damon NYY
121 Thomas Oak
119 Ortiz Bos
118 Guerrero LAA
109 Kubel Min
106 Catalanotto Tex
99 Stairs Tor
91 Guillen KC
86 Sheffield Det
84 Delluci Cle
76 Aybar TB
66 Turbo Sea
I don’t know what anyone can say at this point.
Vidro, like his buddy Silva, is a fat piece of shit…
Based on the available evidence, I’m sure glad we didn’t take a chance on The Big Hurt. Don’t think he could’ve possibly helped us much at all (eyes-a-rollin’).
J-LO’D!!!
Lopez: pull hitting, good.
How Silva managed to last 6.2 innings is beyond me.
He’s been working on his mechanics…..
Must have called his college coach…
Yuni, adventures in bunting.
And, Cabrera bails him out. That’s the Daniel Cabrera the league knows and loves.
OMG, Yuni walked! Quick, check the sky for locusts!
You’re doing it wrong if you walk Betancourt.
Sim screeches, “Yuni WALKS” in the same tone one would use for the return of Our Lord and Savior.
Come to think of it, it may be as rare of an occurrence.
The Orioles are, after all and despite having beaten the Mariners like a red-headed stepchild so far this year, a last place team.
wow
Looks like Ichiro threw a handful of marbles at the defense.
Ichiro magic strikes again.
RAUUUUUUUUL!!!
So Rig put lefties hitting 1-2-3 both last night and today. Does that mean he doesn’t think much of the O’s pen’s ability to get them out?
I predict groundout to short.
wha…wha….Vidro stole a base? And no one noticed? He’s just standing on second?
Whitaker’s career stolen base percentage was 65.6%, so he probably shouldn’t have been stealing as much as he was, let alone more. His career high in triples was 8. He may not have been as fast as he looked.
65: And then Trammell’s SB percentage was actually a little better at 68.4% (236/345), with a career high in triples of 7. It just always seemed like those two were fairly agile whether in the field or on the basepaths.
BTW, I find it interesting that B-R lists those two as comparables of each other. Fancy that!
I don’t understand how the ball Ichiro put in play in his last at-bat could have been ruled a Fielder’s Choice. Of course, it is true that Roberts chose to go to second. But given his position, momentum, and how long it took for him to get the throw off, there’s no way he could have thrown Ichiro out at first. Isn’t the tacit assumption in a Fielder’s Choice the fact that (barring an error) the batter would be put out if the fielder chose to go to first?
Not if there was an out made on the play, or there should have been an out on the play (if there was an error).
Geez, even Matt Pittman is gushing over the fact that Yuni drew a freakin’ walk!
Yuniesky Betancourt facing Daniel Cabrera – the undisciplined swinger against the uncontrolled thrower. I’m not sure which one should be the immovable object and which one the irresistible force.
It’s more than just Betancourt, though, the whole series was filled with Mariners just hacking away at anything, to the point of sending Dave Niehaus into one of his “for crying out loud” jags. The Oriole starters wouldn’t have been throwing complete games (or at least threatening to) without a lot of help.
This is part and parcel of the Mariner team philosophy. They want hitters to be aggressive, so they select for hitters who are aggressive.
The ramifications of their decision seems to escape them…
I watched Silva on the mound today and I had an epiphany.
I saw all of the other things the pitcher’s mound kind of looks like:
The top of a hamburger bun.
A dollop of cookie dough.
The center of a pie crust be it of the dessert or pot variety.
The fat part of well stuffed pasta.
The top of a muffin.
A pile of mashed potatoes with brown gravy.
The top of a chocolate ice cream cone.
What bothers me is that the broadcast crew talked about how Silva really pitched better today and “got it done”. Yes, he only gave up 4 runs, but needed 117 pitches to get through 6.2 innings, gave up 9 hits, got 3 of his outs on DEEP fly balls, and had more fly ball outs (9) than ground ball outs (8).
I see that as a pretty poor outing.
Sort of like Felix yesterday.
But then different expectations lead to different criticisms.
Really? If so, dumbest team ever (Tim Booth, AP):
So we think that it’s important to the team’s future to see whether Morrow can hack it as a starter. BUT we can’t possibly find that out if we don’t know whether Putz is ready to resume his closer role since it’s even more important for the team’s future that … what, that we finish above .400 this year and therefore don’t want to lose late leads? And if we’re worried about the future, shouldn’t Morrow have been getting stretched out at Triple-A once the season became recognized as hopeless?
I just wish I could stop hating and start liking the Angels. It’d be so much less agonizing. Damn my loyalty!
Even worse than waiting for Putz to regain his closer mentality and control is the whole mindset of the front office. YOU SPENT A FIRST ROUND PICK ON A CLOSER! Who cares what JJ can do down the stretch. You should have your closer of the future, and you don’t need a closer in any game started by Silva or Batista anyway.
It is a kind of distinction to feel like I’m cheering for the very stupidest team in baseball.
Okay, maybe the Nationals are stupider, but they have the (dis)advantage of having been run by Major League Baseball itself, and they can probably recover from that.
For this team, closers are clearly moot this year. The idea we’re running our number pne pick out there to close meaningless games when his future lies elsewhere is beyond stupefying.
Well we gained a game today. Now we’re only 27 games back, and 21.5 out of the wildcard. So we really have to buckle it up and get after it. I mean if we don’t have Putz back in full form before stretching Morrow out to be a starter, then this whole season might go down the drain.
What bothers me is that the broadcast crew talked about how Silva really pitched better today
Actually, I would say they’re not that far wrong, Silva probably pitched about as well as he’s capable of doing. The real problem is that we’re putting a totally defense-dependent pitcher out in front of such a lousy defense, on top of the lunacy of paying him $12 million a year.
The worst pitcher will pitch well on occasion. It doesn’t mean anything. Just like the worst hitter (hiya, Turbo!) will hit a home run occasionally. After all, if the other team’s pitcher isn’t really worried about you, he’ll throw up something fat on occasion just because he isn’t concentrating that hard.
So Silva’s best day is about the same as Felix’s worst? Last two games more or less validates that theory.
Damn, Silva ROCKS !
Listening to the pre-game show, I realized I just really hate listening to Riggleman talk about the team. I’ve never met him, he might be a great guy. Given some talent to manage, he might even be an okay manager. But the things he says in interviews makes it sound like he thinks the fans are morons. They’ve only had 41 save opportunities all year. They’re not good enough to need a closer. The game’s usually over by the fifth inning because 3/5ths of the starting rotation sucks. Fans know this, Riggleman. Fans know this Pelekoudos. Please figure it out yourselves and quit trying to bamboozle the
fanspeople who used to come to the games.So Silva’s best day is about the same as Felix’s worst? Last two games more or less validates that theory.
That sounds about right. Silva’s ceiling is Felix’s floor.
The Mariners
in 2008 areunderBavasiLincoln are not only the drain but the entire sewage plant. Why would Howard Lincoln allow his GM to field such crappy teams? I mean if the Rays can go from worst to first, imagine what new management and ideals can do for the M’s!“The fans know what the marketing department tells them to know!” -H. Lincoln
Maybe Lincoln lives in a bunker, where his workers only tell him good things.
Either that, or he’s really what he seems to be in interviews.
Lee’s on with Mitch, and apparently Lee has “can’t read a newspaper or listen to the radio” syndrome. Almost every question Mitch has asked (of which too many were softballs IMO, but that’s another tale for another time) had some permutation of “I haven’t seen/heard anything about that other than what discussions we had” involved.
This interview is dropping my opinion of Lee… you can tell by listening to his voice and how he’s saying things that he’s thinking of a lot of his answers off the top of his head…
He had a great opportunity to inspire some form of confidence with the question about waiver trades, and then gave a complete non-answer. Way to go, Lee. You just shot your fan confidence in the foot.
Like another well-known fascist maniac in world history?!
he’s the interim GM, he’s not going to talk about any thing that happened or didn’t happen. Heck, most GMs won’t talk about what actually happened or not.
At least most GM’s will at least say “Yeah, I’ve heard about that, but…”. Lee on the other hand always seemed to have this “H’uh? What’re you talking about?” tone to his voice when Mitch would ask questions about various rumors.