Comments on: Note To Lee

By: BigJared

BigJared — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:50:27 +0000

#12
Those supposed anarchists from Eugene were in fact Federal Agents doing their job exceedingly well. Google: Problem, Reaction, Solution.

By: apack

apack — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:07:15 +0000

FWIW, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch repudiated the rumor that the Cardinals are the organization that has claimed Washburn (per today’s on-line edition, stltoday.com). That rumor made no sense to me anyway, as the Cards have at least one and probably more then one young pitcher ready to step in and provide what they’d get from Washburn.

By: SequimRealEstate

SequimRealEstate — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:59:12 +0000

CMC_Stags 54. Excellent presentation. Thank you.

By: Breadbaker

Breadbaker — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:23:50 +0000

I don’t think the M’s would have to give up draft picks. You only give up draft picks if you’re above a certain point in the standings. I’m not sure what the point is, but the M’s are below it. The team losing Ibanez would get compensatory picks, but not the M’s picks.

By: pygmalion

pygmalion — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:15:18 +0000

The worst case scenario here is that the Mariners keep Washburn, but trade Ibanez for magic beans, the other team offers him arbitration, he declines, and then the Mariners re-sign him in the offseason and give up the draft picks to get him!(I don’t think this would happen, but if it did the Mariners would be responsible for a lot of heads exploding.)

La laa la la la la, la la la la la…

That was the sound of my head.

GAAAAHHH–

That was the sound of my head in this dark fantasy.

Don’t let it happen Lee.

By: revbill

revbill — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:48:07 +0000

The worst case scenario here is that the Mariners keep Washburn, but trade Ibanez for magic beans, the other team offers him arbitration, he declines, and then the Mariners re-sign him in the offseason and give up the draft picks to get him! (I don’t think this would happen, but if it did the Mariners would be responsible for a lot of heads exploding.)

By: CMC_Stags

CMC_Stags — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:00:26 +0000

For all those who want the M’s to hang onto Washburn until the winter meetings if the claiming team (Twins or whoever) don’t give us back a prospects, what is the value of a prospect?

There is a 100% chance now that the M’s can clear about $12M in salary owed to Washburn for the rest of this season and next without getting any prospects back.

Say the M’s take him to the winter meetings and trade him for a prospect and are able to dump his full $10M in salary. That means the M’s just spent $2M on a prospect who is probably margainal at best. Can’t the M’s use that money to sign Josh Fields, international prospects, over-slot in next June’s draft, etc.? It’s that a better use of $2M than whatever prospect the M’s will get back for Washburn now?

Then what happens if the M’s can’t find a partner to take his full salary at the Winter meetings? If’ the M’s have to pick up $4M of his salary to get back a prospect, you’re now looking at $6M for that prospect.

And I can’t even imagine what would happen if the M’s couldn’t get him moved.

We have more than enough capable starters to get the M’s through this lost season: Felix, Bedard, Silva, Batista, RRS, Dickey, and maybe – but hopefully not for fear of injury – Morrow. It’s not like keeping Washburn around for the rest of the season has any value for the team.

By: Breadbaker

Breadbaker — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:54:32 +0000

[this is not a board]

By: Shizane

Shizane — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:48:42 +0000

FWIW:

Jarrod Washburn, SP SEA
News: According to the Seattle Times, Mariners SP Jarrod Washburn has been claimed on waivers by the St. Louis Cardinals. Seattle now has 48 hours to try and work out a deal with St. Louis, otherwise Washburn remains a Mariner.

By: pygmalion

pygmalion — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:42:41 +0000

I was more thinking of the people Dawkins presents as his opposition.

Well there’s that too.