Comments on: Here’s the bet http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:14:41 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Evan http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-296927 Evan Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:52:03 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5822#comment-296927 <blockquote>I’ll make an additional secondary prediction: there will be at least one free agent hitter who signs a one-year deal for under $10m who would provide a +20 run overall upgrade at a Mariner position from this year, with offense measured by any reasonable advanced metric and defense by UZR, PMR, +/-, or any like decent defensive stat. </blockquote> That's a gimme. Vidro's performance is bettered by almost every position player in baseball.

I’ll make an additional secondary prediction: there will be at least one free agent hitter who signs a one-year deal for under $10m who would provide a +20 run overall upgrade at a Mariner position from this year, with offense measured by any reasonable advanced metric and defense by UZR, PMR, +/-, or any like decent defensive stat.

That’s a gimme. Vidro’s performance is bettered by almost every position player in baseball.

]]> By: DMZ http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-296874 DMZ Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:04:39 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5822#comment-296874 I cleaned up the game-related comments. I cleaned up the game-related comments.

]]> By: floydr http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-296774 floydr Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:08:09 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5822#comment-296774 [long link] [long link]

]]> By: John in L.A. http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-296735 John in L.A. Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:43:31 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5822#comment-296735 "What would be the stakes in this hypothetical bet? How about DMZ eating a whole plate of Rally Fries like he’s Kobayashi or Joey Chestnut?" How about this: If DMZ wins, Chuck and Howard have to both resign immediately. But if DMZ loses, then Chuck and Howard both get fired immediately for not being able to find a way to better spend ten million dollars. “What would be the stakes in this hypothetical bet?

How about DMZ eating a whole plate of Rally Fries like he’s Kobayashi or Joey Chestnut?”

How about this:

If DMZ wins, Chuck and Howard have to both resign immediately.

But if DMZ loses, then Chuck and Howard both get fired immediately for not being able to find a way to better spend ten million dollars.

]]> By: kenshabby http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-296734 kenshabby Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:43:00 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5822#comment-296734 The Mariners 2008 season, summed up: A Comedy of T/errors. The Mariners 2008 season, summed up: A Comedy of T/errors.

]]> By: mln http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-296730 mln Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:51:44 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5822#comment-296730 What would be the stakes in this hypothetical bet? How about DMZ eating a whole plate of Rally Fries like he's Kobayashi or Joey Chestnut? What would be the stakes in this hypothetical bet?

How about DMZ eating a whole plate of Rally Fries like he’s Kobayashi or Joey Chestnut?

]]> By: Lucky Number http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-296723 Lucky Number Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:52:01 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5822#comment-296723 #18 - Nice reference. Here's another: Yankees: How much for Jarrod Washburn? Lee: Washburn's contract is cursed. Yankees: That's bad. Lee: But you get some free rally fries! Yankees: That's good. Lee: The rally fries are also cursed. Yankees: That's bad. Lee: But you get your choice condiments. Yankees: That's good. Lee: The condiments contain potassium-benzoate. Yankees: ... ? Lee: That's bad! Yankees: Can I go now? #18 – Nice reference. Here’s another:

Yankees: How much for Jarrod Washburn?

Lee: Washburn’s contract is cursed.

Yankees: That’s bad.

Lee: But you get some free rally fries!

Yankees: That’s good.

Lee: The rally fries are also cursed.

Yankees: That’s bad.

Lee: But you get your choice condiments.

Yankees: That’s good.

Lee: The condiments contain potassium-benzoate.

Yankees: … ?

Lee: That’s bad!

Yankees: Can I go now?

]]> By: nadingo http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-296722 nadingo Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:30:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5822#comment-296722 From Baker's interview with Pelekoudas: <blockquote>In general, on the issue of dumping salaries, our goal here is to get better. Even back to the trade deadline, and moving forward, we want to get players back that will make us better now and in the future. Money can give you flexibility, but there's no guarantee you can turn that flexibility into anything.</blockquote> This sounds familiar somehow: Lee <i>[Searching underneath the couch for some talent, instead finds 10 million dollars]</i>: Aww, 10 million dollars! I wanted some talent! Lee's Brain: $10 million can by lots of talent. Lee: Explain how! Lee's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services. Lee: Woo-hoo! From Baker’s interview with Pelekoudas:

In general, on the issue of dumping salaries, our goal here is to get better. Even back to the trade deadline, and moving forward, we want to get players back that will make us better now and in the future. Money can give you flexibility, but there’s no guarantee you can turn that flexibility into anything.

This sounds familiar somehow:

Lee [Searching underneath the couch for some talent, instead finds 10 million dollars]: Aww, 10 million dollars! I wanted some talent!

Lee’s Brain: $10 million can by lots of talent.

Lee: Explain how!

Lee’s Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services.

Lee: Woo-hoo!

]]> By: John in L.A. http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-296721 John in L.A. Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:06:37 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5822#comment-296721 That's a generous bet, DMZ. I still wouldn't take it, but it just highlights how much leeway they have to be given to even approach competent. To win the bet they don't even have to justify him against two five million dollar players or 2/3's of a 15 million dollar player. (And I'm a fan of the polite might, pygmalion. It also allows for the possibility that the speaker may be wrong.) That’s a generous bet, DMZ. I still wouldn’t take it, but it just highlights how much leeway they have to be given to even approach competent. To win the bet they don’t even have to justify him against two five million dollar players or 2/3’s of a 15 million dollar player.

(And I’m a fan of the polite might, pygmalion. It also allows for the possibility that the speaker may be wrong.)

]]> By: HamNasty http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/16/heres-the-bet/comment-page-1/#comment-296720 HamNasty Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:59:40 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5822#comment-296720 This a bet? Seems more like a guarantee to me. I guess there is no money in guarantees though. This a bet? Seems more like a guarantee to me. I guess there is no money in guarantees though.

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