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		<title>By: BaltimoreDave</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/17/free-agent-compensation-2/comment-page-2/#comment-297290</link>
		<dc:creator>BaltimoreDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>79 - 

Yes, more teams are getting smarter every year. Some have a lot of money to work with, some have much less. But intelligence is the great equalizer. Yes, more money gives a team a greater margin for error, but so many other factors go into on-field success that I much prefer tweaking the overall system at the margins rather than implement something as huge and constricting as a salary cap. I don&#039;t want to see 30 teams all attempting the same path to success.

And come on - it&#039;s Baltimore DAVE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>79 &#8211; </p>
<p>Yes, more teams are getting smarter every year. Some have a lot of money to work with, some have much less. But intelligence is the great equalizer. Yes, more money gives a team a greater margin for error, but so many other factors go into on-field success that I much prefer tweaking the overall system at the margins rather than implement something as huge and constricting as a salary cap. I don&#8217;t want to see 30 teams all attempting the same path to success.</p>
<p>And come on &#8211; it&#8217;s Baltimore DAVE.</p>
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		<title>By: zeke5123</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/17/free-agent-compensation-2/comment-page-2/#comment-297183</link>
		<dc:creator>zeke5123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, I&#039;ll see if I can find them. Thanks for the argument, though it would be interesting to see how this all gels in normative economics. Is forceably creating equity the most just thing to do? But that is a discussion for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, I&#8217;ll see if I can find them. Thanks for the argument, though it would be interesting to see how this all gels in normative economics. Is forceably creating equity the most just thing to do? But that is a discussion for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cap still doesn&#039;t help. And there&#039;s a whole other issue around TV rights but essentially you also do have to go reform MLB&#039;s current territorial rights situation if you want to equalize footing between teams.

There are many ways to resolve the revenue disparity. Woolner and I put out pretty sweet plans @ Prospectus a couple years back that deal with all of that quite equitably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cap still doesn&#8217;t help. And there&#8217;s a whole other issue around TV rights but essentially you also do have to go reform MLB&#8217;s current territorial rights situation if you want to equalize footing between teams.</p>
<p>There are many ways to resolve the revenue disparity. Woolner and I put out pretty sweet plans @ Prospectus a couple years back that deal with all of that quite equitably.</p>
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		<title>By: zeke5123</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/17/free-agent-compensation-2/comment-page-2/#comment-297151</link>
		<dc:creator>zeke5123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that would work. A question as to how the flat revenue sharing would work, would the Yanks still have more money because of things like YES network? If so then a flat revenue sharing in addition to the cap might be the best solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that would work. A question as to how the flat revenue sharing would work, would the Yanks still have more money because of things like YES network? If so then a flat revenue sharing in addition to the cap might be the best solution.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/08/17/free-agent-compensation-2/comment-page-2/#comment-297147</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m committing a fallacy in my thinking?

The Twins don&#039;t have capital to spend. A cap would reduce the amount of money the Yankees can spend.

That doesn&#039;t give the Twins additional capital.

If you want to equalize capital, equalize capital through flat revenue sharing so each team starts with the same amount of money. Caps don&#039;t do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m committing a fallacy in my thinking?</p>
<p>The Twins don&#8217;t have capital to spend. A cap would reduce the amount of money the Yankees can spend.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t give the Twins additional capital.</p>
<p>If you want to equalize capital, equalize capital through flat revenue sharing so each team starts with the same amount of money. Caps don&#8217;t do that.</p>
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		<title>By: zeke5123</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeke5123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the problem Bmore Dan. Every team is getting smarter every year. If two teams are equally smart the one with more resources will probably prevail. This current system doesn&#039;t benefit the Yank&#039;s because they are stupid. However, it does benefit the Red Sox&#039;s greatly. They can do things other smart franchise simply can&#039;t do over the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the problem Bmore Dan. Every team is getting smarter every year. If two teams are equally smart the one with more resources will probably prevail. This current system doesn&#8217;t benefit the Yank&#8217;s because they are stupid. However, it does benefit the Red Sox&#8217;s greatly. They can do things other smart franchise simply can&#8217;t do over the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: zeke5123</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeke5123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMZ you are committing a fallacy in your thinking. You are right when you say a cap will not equalize capital, some teams will probably still spend more then others. However, they will be much closer in terms of capital. Just because the solution isn&#039;t perfect (yet better then the current system) doesn&#039;t mean you should dismiss it. Thats like saying someone created a way to reduce crime by 10 % but you claim thousands of people will still be victimized therefore we should maintain the status quo. So with the cap. We may not be able to equalize capital perfectly, but we can make it a lot better then the status quo. Perhaps there are valid reasons not to have a cap. I have yet to hear one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DMZ you are committing a fallacy in your thinking. You are right when you say a cap will not equalize capital, some teams will probably still spend more then others. However, they will be much closer in terms of capital. Just because the solution isn&#8217;t perfect (yet better then the current system) doesn&#8217;t mean you should dismiss it. Thats like saying someone created a way to reduce crime by 10 % but you claim thousands of people will still be victimized therefore we should maintain the status quo. So with the cap. We may not be able to equalize capital perfectly, but we can make it a lot better then the status quo. Perhaps there are valid reasons not to have a cap. I have yet to hear one.</p>
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		<title>By: DrivelineKyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrivelineKyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9, #28,

Salary caps. Mandated contracts for rookie salaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9, #28,</p>
<p>Salary caps. Mandated contracts for rookie salaries.</p>
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		<title>By: BaltimoreDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>BaltimoreDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>75 - 

Yes, it is a good thing, from a team-building perspective. That&#039;s the incentive for organizations to spend millions of dollars each year drafting and developing a system full of players. 

Free agency is just one of several ways for an organization to import players, and if the trend of signing top young, pre-arb players to long-term deals continues, free agency won&#039;t be nearly as attractive an option as it is now. The $4MM to 5MM/win on the open market could jump 50% as less impact talent becomes available.

Fewer rules, fewer restraints, spend as much or as little as you wish - just build the best team you can with your unique resources and limitations. It&#039;s not a perfect system by a longshot, but with more organizations getting smarter and smarter each year, it is proving to be a reasonably fair one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>75 &#8211; </p>
<p>Yes, it is a good thing, from a team-building perspective. That&#8217;s the incentive for organizations to spend millions of dollars each year drafting and developing a system full of players. </p>
<p>Free agency is just one of several ways for an organization to import players, and if the trend of signing top young, pre-arb players to long-term deals continues, free agency won&#8217;t be nearly as attractive an option as it is now. The $4MM to 5MM/win on the open market could jump 50% as less impact talent becomes available.</p>
<p>Fewer rules, fewer restraints, spend as much or as little as you wish &#8211; just build the best team you can with your unique resources and limitations. It&#8217;s not a perfect system by a longshot, but with more organizations getting smarter and smarter each year, it is proving to be a reasonably fair one.</p>
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		<title>By: JMHawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMHawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;It really is a beautiful thing that in baseball, a team with a $40MM payroll can be more competitive, currently and projected over the next few years, than one with a $140MM payroll. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, a big reason for that is that enforced pay gap between young and old players. There are around 150 starting pitchers in the league, and Felix is better than all but a handfull of them, and yet is one of the lowest paid.  Is that ultimately a good thing? 

Also, far fewer teams with $40M payrolls are playoff contenders than teams with $100M+.  The disparity in resources between the Yankees and the Royals is not a good thing for baseball, even if the Yankees don&#039;t always make the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>It really is a beautiful thing that in baseball, a team with a $40MM payroll can be more competitive, currently and projected over the next few years, than one with a $140MM payroll. </i></p></blockquote>
<p>Well, a big reason for that is that enforced pay gap between young and old players. There are around 150 starting pitchers in the league, and Felix is better than all but a handfull of them, and yet is one of the lowest paid.  Is that ultimately a good thing? </p>
<p>Also, far fewer teams with $40M payrolls are playoff contenders than teams with $100M+.  The disparity in resources between the Yankees and the Royals is not a good thing for baseball, even if the Yankees don&#8217;t always make the playoffs.</p>
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