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Game 131, Twins at Mariners
Oh man, Liriano v Batista? This is going to be so awesome!
It could, of course, be a fine pitching matchup. But I can’t be the only one who looks at tonight’s game with some degree of dread. Batista facing a good-hitting Twins team? Ugh.
Mark Lowe was optioned to Tacoma, and Randy Messenger is up in his stead. Lowe’s foot is injured after taking that liner off it Saturday, and he was reportedly on crutches yesterday, so there you are.
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And yet he continued to pitch on it at the time. There’s a gutty, gritty performance that might have cost him the rest of the season. (Yeah, it might not have made any difference, but in many cases getting iced and treated before the inflammation gets bad can swing things from “serious” to “out a few days”). Of course, if he hadn’t kept pitching I would assume all the people who consider Bedard a wimp and a slacker would’ve turned on him too.
Randy Messenger is up in his stead
…uh, who?
Maybe the M’s could sign this kid.
Can’t wait to see the Liriano v Batista game. When did we pick up Liriano???? When did we get rid of Batista? Man that is awesome….what? Batista is still on our team…UGH! I thought our FO did something right for once and traded Batista to Minnesota for Liriano. I could dream can’t I…instead of this nightmare season we can’t get out of.
Where is Bedard? Will he ever pitch again?
In response to the article Joe posted… That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard anyone say ever. I remember facing some kid who could pipe fast balls about that age and he would end up no hitting us, wasn’t a perfect game cause he beaned me in the leg and I had a bruise for about a month it seemed like. Its baseball if the kid is good let him pitch.
In other news Everyday Eddie is back. Since the nifty little buttons are gone I have to do this… http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080825&content_id=3365356&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Liriano is a nice pitcher, but Batista has more experience. My money is on Batista.
I wouldn’t haved turned on Lowe, he’s done nothing to suggest he’s cut from the same cloth as the wimpy slacker Bedard.
What is up with J.Reed??? Not in the lineup again….Yuni hitting in the 2 spot again.
You know, the Twins are on a pretty brutal roadtrip (at least by the standards of any team not called the Mariners) — 14 games in 15 days in Anaheim, Seattle, Oakland, and then Toronto. And this while they’re trying to push past Chicago for the AL Central or past the Red Sox for the wild card. While I’m not the kind of guy who advocates cheering for a team playing against the M’s, you Stasburgers can take added comfort in the uber-schadenfreude on offer if neither the Yankees nor the Red Sox end up playing in the post season. I’m almost tempted to buy tickets to the Yankees games here next week and take down a big sign reading “Hey NY: You’re not playing in October either!”
Don’t think the Ms have confidence in Reed, batting against a tough lefty….
Nice grab.
Ichiro with his 39th stolen base of the year
It won’t last, but Miguel Batista has been one efficient out-machine through four (make that five) batters.
9: I can’t tell you how much I enjoy the Yanks not being able to play any October baseball in the last year of Yankee Stadium
14. Wouldn’t you rather see them lose in October for their final game in the stadium ?
Last I saw the Yanks are only 5 games outta the wildcard. Not saying they are gonna make the playoffs, but stranger things have happend.
Hey, today we get two meaningless games for the price of one!
the Twins let Mike Lamb go to put Eddie on the roster– I duuno, seems like it would have been more … synchronistic? … to have sent Lamb back to the Rangers
why, Randy Jerome Messenger, of course.
per Baker’s blog tonight “Erik Bedard threw 50 pitches at 90 feet today, off flat ground. It went well, and he’ll do it again tomorrow. No word on when he’ll throw off a mound, let alone off a mound in an actual game”
“Messenger is known for giving teammate Scott Olsen a black eye while he was with the Marlins, which ironically spurred Olsen to a 4-0 record over four decisions.”
That’s not irony, and there’s no indication that the punch spurred his 4-0 streak.
Very poor performance wikipedia, very poor.
well as I discovered the other day, they let just anyone edit the darned thing.
I don’t know the saddest experience of my day:
The Hawks’s lackluster performance
Learning wikipedia isn’t the bastion of knowledge I once held it as
or
having the Mariners as the only thing on tv to watch now.
What’s this world come to?
well that answered my question pretty quickly.
I’m hoping that Randy Messenger punches Carlos Silva in the eye, spurring Silva to retire and give back the rest of his salary.
2nd stolen base against Burke tonight….Do we have Burke on the roster for his bat????
We have Burke on the roster for his gritty fastball.
Meanwhile, when Carlos Silva heard the news that Eddie Guardado was traded for Hamburger, his eyes lit up and drool dripped from his mouth as he pondered the trade.
He gets two bases on that?
Why does Burke get two bases? He was going back to first base when the ball was thrown into the camera well.
I’m sure the umps had it wrong.
#5..couldn’t agree more about that. Forfeiting the game and shutting down the league? absurd!
It reminds me of this lefthander that exceled at Bronco and Pony baseball, he had a blazing fastball and a good pickoff move (i was speedy but he the only pitcher to ever pick me off). I was a weak hitter but hit him well for some reason, I think that bothered him that the RF that batted 9th could hit him, so I received a few beanballs from him. Can’t beat getting hit by a 70mph on your back and having the threads perfectly indented in your skin…or misplacing your index finger while getting the bunt down..painful times.
the guy went on to excel at high school and signed with the Pirates….and has sucked at the mlb level:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/a/anderji02.shtml
So what’s the report on this Messenger guy? Never heard of him.
Saw Silva & Bedard at the Kirkland Marina on Saturday.
Bedard looked like the scrawny hip-hop wannabe you’d want to make fun of in high school.
Silva looked like the guy who would make you think twice about doing that.
I wanted to introduce myself and say how cool it was to meet $15mil of disabled list all at once, but I don’t think it would’ve gone over well.
I thought Randy Messenger pitched for the Mariners last year, during the Gas Can White time. Vaguely remember him being pretty gassy himself.
Gonna do some Kugels in honor of Kugel
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/rule7.shtml
7.05 Each runner including the batter runner may, without liability to be put out, advance-
(g) Two bases when, with no spectators on the playing field, a thrown ball goes into the stands, or into a bench (whether or not the ball rebounds into the field), or over or under or through a field fence, or on a slanting part of the screen above the backstop, or remains in the meshes of a wire screen protecting spectators. The ball is dead. When such wild throw is the first play by an infielder, the umpire, in awarding such bases, shall be governed by the position of the runners at the time the ball was pitched; in all other cases the umpire shall be governed by the position of the runners at the time the wild throw was made
Who is this pitcher?
LOL @ 31
#34 Thanks Scooter4.
No problem. I thought it was a one base rule also, so I figured I’d look it up.
This pattern is so tedious. So Batista will somehow miraclously win this game, or at least get a no decision, then they’ll slap him back in the rotation, all excited, then he’ll have a couple of bad starts again, back to the bullpen…is this season over yet?
The tedious pattern is the M’s blowing games.
my, that is one large Messenger.
The M’s are down one run and they’re going with the back-bullpen scrub? I… what?
Messenger has never played with the Mariners before. Most of his career was with the Marlins, but he was traded for ex-Mariner Armando Benitez to the Giants last year and released by them last month.
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2008/08/25/lowe_to_minors_messenger_up_gu.html
Who the hell is pitching? Someone teach him how to wear a god damned baseball hat.
someone saw the hat & the profile, and thought it was Sherrill.
hey! me & Sims, thinkin’ the same thoughts!
I think he’s trying to look like Joba Chamberlain. Got the Big Head going on–that’s why the hat doesn’t fit.
Jeez, who am I thinking of from last year? Did we have a different guy named Messenger who was awful? (checking) I guess I was thinking of John Parrish, even though the names are in no way similiar. (losing it.)
Do not bunt. Do not bunt. Do not bunt.
Oh great, a bunt.
Beltre was just waiting for Span to diver in there and rob him.
Lopez is a good hitter.
Lopez is not a good bunter.
QED.
Jose looked so frustrated after getting two strikes with these freakin’ bunts. “Now I get to hit???” was written all over his face.
Cannot bunt. Cannot bunt. Cannot bunt.
Jose Sucks (at bunting). And at playing for the team. I-team.
Looks like I chose a good time to tune into the game. Let’s see if we can finish them off here.
dang it.
don’t these guys know they are supposed to have given up? stop playing hard? need to be not making an effort to win here? not giving 110%?
I guess I have to be excited about the game being tied, but what a waste
Hmmm not sure if I should cheer the DP or not.
Interesting that the Twins played back and allowed the tie.
58: They were probably just following the scouting report that put the least likely time for the mariners to score a run as a situation with a runner on third and no outs.
And JJ comes on….to give it up!
Is RA Dickey really the best pitcher to go to in this situation? Someone who’s likely to walk, then wild pitch a guy to third?
61, at least Burke is catching rather than Clement.
No many options left - isn’t it Jiminez, Dickey and ?
Jayson Stark was opining this morning that should the Nats earn the first draft pick, that due to payroll concerns, they wouldn’t want to pay Strasburg what he might be ‘advised’ to ask for, and if the Pads get in there, Alderson might not be likely to want to pay, either, being a good soldier in Bud’s Army.
of course, that doesn’t take into account that the Mariners are really good at following orders when it comes to slotting…
Two out, no one on? Swing for the fences Ichi!
…or hit a soft ground ball, whatever… I just wish that, “Ichiro could hit 40 homers if he wanted to,” thing the announcers say would happen in relevant situations.
god i love beltre
The crowd at the game is as thin as it is here.
I need to know who’s pitching next inning for the Mariners so I can make another crack. I seem to be successfully reverse cursing them.
I like the people who are still in the bleachers. Why not move to one of the empty cheap seats…
BELTRED!!!!!!
Weeee!
That was a vintage “Swung on and BELTED” by Dave!!!!
dammit, Adrian. why do you have to be so Adrian-like.
Jamie says this was the best he’s seen Batista this season — reminding him of the way he threw last year.
I think Jamie attended the Dan Wilson School of Catcher Speak.
Wooohooo! Rauuuuuul, AND BELTRE !!
Breaking news…Batista changed his mechanics! Again! Woo-hoo! I’m sure he’ll be lights out the rest of the season, right? Heck, with that “new arm angle” he may not allow another run.
Nope, never heard talk like that before.
Breaking news…Batista changed his mechanics! Again! Woo-hoo!
You sure he didn’t talk to his high-school coach? Or changed his glove postion to stop tipping his pitches? Or got some pointers from little green men?
In the post-game press conference, Riggleman just called Beltre “Belly”
“Belly?”
This is the exactly the kind of exciting, late August baseball I’d really be able to appreciate if my baseball team were PLAYING FOR ANYTHING WHATSOEVER.
interesting line to open Larue’s game update:
“Miguel Batista has made it clear to those who listen to him – he’d just as soon be somewhere other than Seattle.
The irony is that he waited most of the season to pitch well enough to make any other team want him.”
he’s been called that for a long, long time. Sadly.
msb:
“Jayson Stark was opining this morning that should the Nats earn the first draft pick, that due to payroll concerns, they wouldn’t want to pay Strasburg what he might be ‘advised’ to ask for, and if the Pads get in there, Alderson might not be likely to want to pay, either, being a good soldier in Bud’s Army.
of course, that doesn’t take into account that the Mariners are really good at following orders when it comes to slotting…
Isn’t Strasburg the consensus best player in the draft? In that case, I don’t quite understand the slotting problem–shouldn’t he go at the top and get the most money?
No.
If a player wants $10m and the top slot number is $5m, he doesn’t get drafted up top for $5m.
He either doesn’t get drafted, or some team pays more than they’re supposed to to get him with a later pick.
And Strasburg will have the option of returning to college for his senior year (I hope I am right on this), so, unlike the M’s pick Fields, he will have some more leverage to demand money over slot.
yup.
Shhhhhh! He has a new secret. Don’t tell anyone.
As far as Riggleman calling Beltre “Belly”, how could that nickname not be used for Sliva/Yuni/Lopez?
Then the Ms, with this current management, won’t be getting Strasburg. With HowChuck, they won’t go that much over slot for a high draft pick.