Comments on: Yost fired http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:17:09 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: philosofool http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-300457 philosofool Wed, 17 Sep 2008 02:13:51 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6114#comment-300457 It's not fair that Yost was fired. He has a team with exactly one guy in the starting lineup with an OBP over .340 (Fielder). That's not a play off bound team, really. Also, the Brewer's bullpen sucks, so I'm not sure that Yost really had great options. (Though as someone exceptionally skeptical of intentional walks, I can't really endorse skiping to Howard to throw at Burrell. BTW: Dave, you were using understatement when you called Burrell "pretty good" right?) Anyway, here's the question on which I think all the readers want the very good opinion of the bloggers here: <strong>how likely is Yost to get a job with the M's and how good or bad is he?</strong> It’s not fair that Yost was fired. He has a team with exactly one guy in the starting lineup with an OBP over .340 (Fielder). That’s not a play off bound team, really. Also, the Brewer’s bullpen sucks, so I’m not sure that Yost really had great options. (Though as someone exceptionally skeptical of intentional walks, I can’t really endorse skiping to Howard to throw at Burrell. BTW: Dave, you were using understatement when you called Burrell “pretty good” right?)

Anyway, here’s the question on which I think all the readers want the very good opinion of the bloggers here: how likely is Yost to get a job with the M’s and how good or bad is he?

]]> By: scraps http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-300426 scraps Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:08:42 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6114#comment-300426 What are these "batting averages" of which you speak? It sounds like they're some kind of primitive statistical measure of hitting. What are these “batting averages” of which you speak? It sounds like they’re some kind of primitive statistical measure of hitting.

]]> By: Red Apple http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-300412 Red Apple Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:55:48 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6114#comment-300412 <blockquote>Ownership got fed up with his poor decisions as a manager and that he couldn’t get his team to get out of there hitting slump. Upper management pulled the trigger to get CC and the team is responding by hitting poorly. Here are some of the batting averages for sept. Fielder .239 Braun .192 Hardy .190 Cameron .122 Hart .176 Kendall .186 Its amazing they are still in a playoff race. </blockquote> Ri-iiight...that's Yost's fault. You've got to lay off of the ESPN.

Ownership got fed up with his poor decisions as a manager and that he couldn’t get his team to get out of there hitting slump. Upper management pulled the trigger to get CC and the team is responding by hitting poorly.

Here are some of the batting averages for sept.
Fielder .239
Braun .192
Hardy .190
Cameron .122
Hart .176
Kendall .186

Its amazing they are still in a playoff race.

Ri-iiight…that’s Yost’s fault.

You’ve got to lay off of the ESPN.

]]> By: Gomez http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-300394 Gomez Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:33:37 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6114#comment-300394 Yost apparently wasn't getting along well with the clubhouse. Along with the bad bullpen management, it's possible that a team mutiny was imminent, the last thing you need with 12 games to go in a playoff race. Yost apparently wasn’t getting along well with the clubhouse. Along with the bad bullpen management, it’s possible that a team mutiny was imminent, the last thing you need with 12 games to go in a playoff race.

]]> By: vj http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-300379 vj Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:40:15 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6114#comment-300379 German soccer club Fortuna Cologne once fired its manager during the halftime of a match. German soccer club Fortuna Cologne once fired its manager during the halftime of a match.

]]> By: skitrex http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-300376 skitrex Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:18:50 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6114#comment-300376 Ownership got fed up with his poor decisions as a manager and that he couldn't get his team to get out of there hitting slump. Upper management pulled the trigger to get CC and the team is responding by hitting poorly. Here are some of the batting averages for sept. Fielder .239 Braun .192 Hardy .190 Cameron .122 Hart .176 Kendall .186 Its amazing they are still in a playoff race. Ownership got fed up with his poor decisions as a manager and that he couldn’t get his team to get out of there hitting slump. Upper management pulled the trigger to get CC and the team is responding by hitting poorly.

Here are some of the batting averages for sept.
Fielder .239
Braun .192
Hardy .190
Cameron .122
Hart .176
Kendall .186

Its amazing they are still in a playoff race.

]]> By: msb http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-300340 msb Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:27:06 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6114#comment-300340 <a href="http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2008/09/15/yost_fired_by_brewers.html" rel="nofollow">Baker</a> reminds us of Dick Williams' September '81 firing in Montreal... <blockquote>Not to mention Yost’s decision to use catcher Jason Kendall for all 18 innings of said doubleheader. What’s that, you’re tired, Jason? Tough noogies!</blockquote> pshaw. they woulda hadda pry the ball out of Kendall's chaw-stained mitt Baker reminds us of Dick Williams’ September ‘81 firing in Montreal…

Not to mention Yost’s decision to use catcher Jason Kendall for all 18 innings of said doubleheader. What’s that, you’re tired, Jason? Tough noogies!

pshaw. they woulda hadda pry the ball out of Kendall’s chaw-stained mitt

]]> By: Madison Mariner http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-300328 Madison Mariner Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:54:43 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6114#comment-300328 <blockquote>"One thing’s for sure: Doug Melvin does things his own way, and isn’t afraid of looking insane."</blockquote> Well, that's not necessarily the case here, as Doug Melvin is quoted as saying that the decision to fire Yost was a "collaborative one". Here's the exact quote from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: <blockquote>Melvin said the decision to fire Yost was a collaboration between he and (Brewer's owner Mark) Attanasio, which was discussed last night. He also said he wouldn’t discuss whether or not the move was forced by Attanasio or not.</blockquote> And, yes, the "Madison" in my name refers to Madison, Wisconsin. And from the reaction from the media and fans here in the state(heck, just from the posts at Brew Crew Ball alone), this is a good thing, by and large--a surprise, to be certain, but a good thing, as Dave detailed the horrible decisions made by Yost during the doubleheader with the Phillies this weekend. (Not to mention Yost's decision to use catcher Jason Kendall for all 18 innings of said doubleheader. What's that, you're tired, Jason? Tough noogies!)

“One thing’s for sure: Doug Melvin does things his own way, and isn’t afraid of looking insane.”

Well, that’s not necessarily the case here, as Doug Melvin is quoted as saying that the decision to fire Yost was a “collaborative one”.

Here’s the exact quote from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel:

Melvin said the decision to fire Yost was a collaboration between he and (Brewer’s owner Mark) Attanasio, which was discussed last night. He also said he wouldn’t discuss whether or not the move was forced by Attanasio or not.

And, yes, the “Madison” in my name refers to Madison, Wisconsin. And from the reaction from the media and fans here in the state(heck, just from the posts at Brew Crew Ball alone), this is a good thing, by and large–a surprise, to be certain, but a good thing, as Dave detailed the horrible decisions made by Yost during the doubleheader with the Phillies this weekend.

(Not to mention Yost’s decision to use catcher Jason Kendall for all 18 innings of said doubleheader. What’s that, you’re tired, Jason? Tough noogies!)

]]> By: James T http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-300321 James T Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:10:11 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6114#comment-300321 Sveum was disliked by Sox fans as a third base coach because he was crazily aggressive. Just because much criticism of third base coaches is silly doesn't mean it's never merited. And the present third base coach, Demarlo Hale has a pretty good rep with Sox fans, as far as I can tell. He was supposedly a tremendous worker behind the scenes keeping the hitter spray charts, positioning the fielders etc. On the radio before tonight's Red Sox game they were equally dumbfounded by this firing but noted that Sveum is likely to be a much more low key skipper than Yost apparently was. Oh, and mustard, a few years before that the Devils fired their coach with 9 games left in the season . . . and then went on to win the Stanley Cup! Sveum was disliked by Sox fans as a third base coach because he was crazily aggressive.

Just because much criticism of third base coaches is silly doesn’t mean it’s never merited. And the present third base coach, Demarlo Hale has a pretty good rep with Sox fans, as far as I can tell.

He was supposedly a tremendous worker behind the scenes keeping the hitter spray charts, positioning the fielders etc.

On the radio before tonight’s Red Sox game they were equally dumbfounded by this firing but noted that Sveum is likely to be a much more low key skipper than Yost apparently was.

Oh, and mustard, a few years before that the Devils fired their coach with 9 games left in the season . . . and then went on to win the Stanley Cup!

]]> By: Mustard http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/15/yost-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-300310 Mustard Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:07:09 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6114#comment-300310 I have not seen this in baseball...but it does happen in sports. See Lou Lamoriello (GM)and the New Jersey Devils. -On April 2, 2007, Lamoriello took over as interim head coach after firing Claude Julien. The firing took place with three games left in the season, when the Devils had the second-best record in the conference and were on their way to setting a franchise record for regular season wins. Now that is crazy. I have not seen this in baseball…but it does happen in sports. See Lou Lamoriello (GM)and the New Jersey Devils.

-On April 2, 2007, Lamoriello took over as interim head coach after firing Claude Julien. The firing took place with three games left in the season, when the Devils had the second-best record in the conference and were on their way to setting a franchise record for regular season wins.

Now that is crazy.

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