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	<title>Comments on: Bedard to have &#8220;exploratory&#8221; surgery</title>
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		<title>By: pumpkinhead</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/16/bedard-to-have-exploratory-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-300539</link>
		<dc:creator>pumpkinhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Silva has a similar issue... perhaps he too has a &#039;suck&#039; build-up in his arm that needs removing?  I couldn&#039;t agree more though... call it what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Silva has a similar issue&#8230; perhaps he too has a &#8217;suck&#8217; build-up in his arm that needs removing?  I couldn&#8217;t agree more though&#8230; call it what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/16/bedard-to-have-exploratory-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-300526</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The real shame is that the angry fan siege of Safeco Field would probably be to tar and feather Bedard for not “gutting it out.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

oh, that&#039;s already happening -- just read the Times blog comments ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The real shame is that the angry fan siege of Safeco Field would probably be to tar and feather Bedard for not “gutting it out.”</p></blockquote>
<p>oh, that&#8217;s already happening &#8212; just read the Times blog comments &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: smb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/16/bedard-to-have-exploratory-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-300525</link>
		<dc:creator>smb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real shame is that the angry fan siege of Safeco Field would probably be to tar and feather Bedard for not &quot;gutting it out.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real shame is that the angry fan siege of Safeco Field would probably be to tar and feather Bedard for not &#8220;gutting it out.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wabbles</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/16/bedard-to-have-exploratory-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-300517</link>
		<dc:creator>wabbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a surgeon but I&#039;ve had about a dozen done to me and &quot;exploratory surgery&quot; is a misnomer. You don&#039;t want to open someone up and go poking around unless you really have to and unless you know what you want to do once you get there. This idea of surgeons &quot;just taking a look&quot; or flying by the seat of their pants with someone&#039;s well-being (sometimes life) at stake is ludicrous. That is why you get an endless streams of medical tests prior to surgeries, that&#039;s the exploration. The team is trying to sugar coat things. We traded the farm (and our first and second born, Jones and Sherrill) for damaged goods and now the team is trying to prevent a siege of Safeco Field by angry fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a surgeon but I&#8217;ve had about a dozen done to me and &#8220;exploratory surgery&#8221; is a misnomer. You don&#8217;t want to open someone up and go poking around unless you really have to and unless you know what you want to do once you get there. This idea of surgeons &#8220;just taking a look&#8221; or flying by the seat of their pants with someone&#8217;s well-being (sometimes life) at stake is ludicrous. That is why you get an endless streams of medical tests prior to surgeries, that&#8217;s the exploration. The team is trying to sugar coat things. We traded the farm (and our first and second born, Jones and Sherrill) for damaged goods and now the team is trying to prevent a siege of Safeco Field by angry fans.</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/16/bedard-to-have-exploratory-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-300516</link>
		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Bedard:  Gee, we couldn&#039;t see that one coming now, could we?  (Although, to be fair, we&#039;ve at least gotten a little more out of him this season than the Blue Jays did from Mike Sirotka in the infamous &quot;damaged goods&quot; trade they made with the White Sox back in &#039;01.)

Re Kelley:  Though I missed his radio tirade last night, it sounds as if the &quot;haze&quot; in that studio was about as thick as it was in that scene from &lt;em&gt;The Breakfast Club&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Bedard:  Gee, we couldn&#8217;t see that one coming now, could we?  (Although, to be fair, we&#8217;ve at least gotten a little more out of him this season than the Blue Jays did from Mike Sirotka in the infamous &#8220;damaged goods&#8221; trade they made with the White Sox back in &#8216;01.)</p>
<p>Re Kelley:  Though I missed his radio tirade last night, it sounds as if the &#8220;haze&#8221; in that studio was about as thick as it was in that scene from <em>The Breakfast Club</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: JMHawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMHawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I for one am certainly glad Adam Jones flew back from Winter Ball to have a physical.  Got to make sure there aren&#039;t any hidden injuries before a trade.

BTW, I nominate smb for comment of the month.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kelley is a classic example of a guy who is bad at something he likes to do.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I for one am certainly glad Adam Jones flew back from Winter Ball to have a physical.  Got to make sure there aren&#8217;t any hidden injuries before a trade.</p>
<p>BTW, I nominate smb for comment of the month.  </p>
<blockquote><p><em>Kelley is a classic example of a guy who is bad at something he likes to do.</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We saw this with Gil Meche&lt;/blockquote&gt;

sort of in reverse, though. Gil complained things weren&#039;t right, they did an MRI, sent him to Pedegana and then to Andrews, neither of whom found structural damage; Meche requested to have exploratory surgery. Andrews went in, and found a &#039;minor&#039; fraying of the labrum, which pretty much every pitcher has. Meche still didn&#039;t feel quite right, and so some 6 months later Pedegana went in, found &amp; loosened an impingement.

it sounds as though (like most shoulder problems) an impingement is hard to diagnose, hard to treat, and hard to deal with if any major work needs to be done</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We saw this with Gil Meche</p></blockquote>
<p>sort of in reverse, though. Gil complained things weren&#8217;t right, they did an MRI, sent him to Pedegana and then to Andrews, neither of whom found structural damage; Meche requested to have exploratory surgery. Andrews went in, and found a &#8216;minor&#8217; fraying of the labrum, which pretty much every pitcher has. Meche still didn&#8217;t feel quite right, and so some 6 months later Pedegana went in, found &amp; loosened an impingement.</p>
<p>it sounds as though (like most shoulder problems) an impingement is hard to diagnose, hard to treat, and hard to deal with if any major work needs to be done</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is his reasoning? you have to pay him to rehab, you&#039;d have to pay him to stay home. Just getting him off the 40 man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is his reasoning? you have to pay him to rehab, you&#8217;d have to pay him to stay home. Just getting him off the 40 man?</p>
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		<title>By: the other benno</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/16/bedard-to-have-exploratory-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-300490</link>
		<dc:creator>the other benno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over on ESPN, Buster Olney wonders if the M&#039;s might be better off non-tendering Bedard if the damage is bad.  Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over on ESPN, Buster Olney wonders if the M&#8217;s might be better off non-tendering Bedard if the damage is bad.  Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: smb</title>
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		<dc:creator>smb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“he’s a classic example of a guy who is good at something he doesn’t like to do” (I guess Steve never saw Bedard pitch last year)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Kelley is a classic example of a guy who is bad at something he likes to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“he’s a classic example of a guy who is good at something he doesn’t like to do” (I guess Steve never saw Bedard pitch last year)</p></blockquote>
<p>Kelley is a classic example of a guy who is bad at something he likes to do.</p>
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