Comments on: Zduriencik’s Resumé http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: afraidofedhochuli http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-303379 afraidofedhochuli Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:41:16 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6507#comment-303379 <blockquote>Then again, if Tony Gwynn Jr. actually goes out and “kicks some butt” next season, he’ll easily pump up his career stats to somewhere around those of Willie Bloomquist…</blockquote> Wow...I may have just busted a stitch...

Then again, if Tony Gwynn Jr. actually goes out and “kicks some butt” next season, he’ll easily pump up his career stats to somewhere around those of Willie Bloomquist…

Wow…I may have just busted a stitch…

]]> By: scott19 http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-303376 scott19 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:12:48 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6507#comment-303376 Then again, if Tony Gwynn Jr. actually goes out and "kicks some butt" next season, he'll easily pump up his career stats to somewhere around those of Willie Bloomquist... Oh, wait. Then again, if Tony Gwynn Jr. actually goes out and “kicks some butt” next season, he’ll easily pump up his career stats to somewhere around those of Willie Bloomquist…

Oh, wait.

]]> By: Conor http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-303370 Conor Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:59:27 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6507#comment-303370 "I’m not picking on Conor here, but can somebody tell me why every article lists Tony Gwynn Jr. as a feather in Zduriencik’s cap? Other than name recognition. Because Gwynn Jr.’s not any good. I mean, nobody lists Dave Krynzel." Jason - it's funny, just before I posted it, I thought to myself, "Tony Gwynn Jr. sucks. Should I take him off the list? Nah, whatever..." “I’m not picking on Conor here, but can somebody tell me why every article lists Tony Gwynn Jr. as a feather in Zduriencik’s cap? Other than name recognition. Because Gwynn Jr.’s not any good. I mean, nobody lists Dave Krynzel.”

Jason – it’s funny, just before I posted it, I thought to myself, “Tony Gwynn Jr. sucks. Should I take him off the list? Nah, whatever…”

]]> By: OnlyonFSN http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-303325 OnlyonFSN Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:04:39 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6507#comment-303325 Allow me to insert a shameless plug that you can catch the Mariners press conference on Friday morning at 10 a.m. live on FSN. And Zduriencik will also have a 30-minute interview on "In My Own Words" Friday night at 10:30 p.m. Just in case you want to get to know a little more about the new GM... Allow me to insert a shameless plug that you can catch the Mariners press conference on Friday morning at 10 a.m. live on FSN. And Zduriencik will also have a 30-minute interview on “In My Own Words” Friday night at 10:30 p.m.

Just in case you want to get to know a little more about the new GM…

]]> By: afraidofedhochuli http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-303317 afraidofedhochuli Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:39:00 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6507#comment-303317 I agree with "The Ancient Mariner". If he makes some big splashes (or even a few small ones) then the team will be better off. We have all seen how the youth movement CAN help a team, and as I have been enlightened in this thread, youth seems to be something that Jacky Z is good at. I agree with “The Ancient Mariner”.

If he makes some big splashes (or even a few small ones) then the team will be better off.

We have all seen how the youth movement CAN help a team, and as I have been enlightened in this thread, youth seems to be something that Jacky Z is good at.

]]> By: The Ancient Mariner http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-303316 The Ancient Mariner Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:34:38 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6507#comment-303316 Depends, too, how good the good stuff is and how bad the bad stuff is. If the mistakes are in the smaller things and he gets the really big decisions right, that makes a difference. A couple players can change a franchise, if they're the right players -- we should know that better than anyone. Depends, too, how good the good stuff is and how bad the bad stuff is. If the mistakes are in the smaller things and he gets the really big decisions right, that makes a difference. A couple players can change a franchise, if they’re the right players — we should know that better than anyone.

]]> By: gwangung http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-303314 gwangung Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:25:25 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6507#comment-303314 Personally, cautious optimism is my mode. There's lots to like here, but there's also stuff here that just may be More of the Same. And, to be honest, there may be a mixture of the two from here on out. If there's a mix of 20% good stuff and 80% bad stuff, then, yeah, that's gonna be a long five years....but if it's 66% Really Good Stuff and 33% Same Old Thing, I still think we come out ahead.... Personally, cautious optimism is my mode. There’s lots to like here, but there’s also stuff here that just may be More of the Same. And, to be honest, there may be a mixture of the two from here on out. If there’s a mix of 20% good stuff and 80% bad stuff, then, yeah, that’s gonna be a long five years….but if it’s 66% Really Good Stuff and 33% Same Old Thing, I still think we come out ahead….

]]> By: afraidofedhochuli http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-303313 afraidofedhochuli Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:20:26 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6507#comment-303313 Dave, See, this is why I come here: I had no idea the difference between the average and "Jacky Z". You are swaying me. Most of what we laymen have to review are press releases and a few "insider" options, so (at least for me) it is hard to find anything else. And I wasn't basing him being the same on the bald white guy thing. I was looking at his work (from what I could find). If I am off, then I am off, and thank you for setting me straight. Dave,

See, this is why I come here: I had no idea the difference between the average and “Jacky Z”.

You are swaying me.

Most of what we laymen have to review are press releases and a few “insider” options, so (at least for me) it is hard to find anything else.

And I wasn’t basing him being the same on the bald white guy thing. I was looking at his work (from what I could find). If I am off, then I am off, and thank you for setting me straight.

]]> By: The Ancient Mariner http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-303311 The Ancient Mariner Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:32:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6507#comment-303311 <em>We absolutely have to be more nuanced in our analysis than seeing bald white scout and deciding that they’re exactly the same.</em> LOL! Too perfectly put. We absolutely have to be more nuanced in our analysis than seeing bald white scout and deciding that they’re exactly the same.

LOL! Too perfectly put.

]]> By: Dave http://ussmariner.com/2008/10/22/zdurienciks-resume/comment-page-1/#comment-303310 Dave Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:22:36 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6507#comment-303310 <em>but don’t you agree that it SHOULD be? A great scout SHOULD be able to find a first rounder that works</em> No - if the average success rate of a first round pick is about 30% (it varies by slot, but as a mean, that's pretty close), and Zduriencik's rate is 65%, then that's a demonstrative advantage. You can't wave it away as something that everyone should be able to do if everyone isn't able to do it. <em>This is what I am saying: “The Mariners are feeding us the same thing”.</em> And I'm saying: "Who cares what the Mariners are feeding you?" Seriously, the PR spin might be the same, but that doesn't mean that Zduriencik = Bavasi. The team would sell the acquisition of Juan Pierre and Ichiro the same way (leadoff hitter, speed, defense), but that doesn't make them equals. We absolutely have to be more nuanced in our analysis than seeing bald white scout and deciding that they're exactly the same. but don’t you agree that it SHOULD be? A great scout SHOULD be able to find a first rounder that works

No – if the average success rate of a first round pick is about 30% (it varies by slot, but as a mean, that’s pretty close), and Zduriencik’s rate is 65%, then that’s a demonstrative advantage. You can’t wave it away as something that everyone should be able to do if everyone isn’t able to do it.

This is what I am saying: “The Mariners are feeding us the same thing”.

And I’m saying: “Who cares what the Mariners are feeding you?”

Seriously, the PR spin might be the same, but that doesn’t mean that Zduriencik = Bavasi. The team would sell the acquisition of Juan Pierre and Ichiro the same way (leadoff hitter, speed, defense), but that doesn’t make them equals.

We absolutely have to be more nuanced in our analysis than seeing bald white scout and deciding that they’re exactly the same.

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