Comments on: Gillick team ages http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Paul B http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-304179 Paul B Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:09:09 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6578#comment-304179 <blockquote>Or the poor performance is perhaps because the new GM couldn’t do his job as well as Gillick himself?</blockquote> But that ignores the message in the chart, that Gillick leaves teams with significantly older rosters than when he started. <blockquote>who’s to say he wouldn’t have kept it up had he stayed longer?</blockquote> If that were true, we'd expect to see an example of where he took a team that was long in the tooth and retooled them to be a young contender. Since he has never done that, one must conclude that isn't the way he works.

Or the poor performance is perhaps because the new GM couldn’t do his job as well as Gillick himself?

But that ignores the message in the chart, that Gillick leaves teams with significantly older rosters than when he started.

who’s to say he wouldn’t have kept it up had he stayed longer?

If that were true, we’d expect to see an example of where he took a team that was long in the tooth and retooled them to be a young contender.

Since he has never done that, one must conclude that isn’t the way he works.

]]> By: msb http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-304178 msb Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:08:53 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6578#comment-304178 I dunno, he was advising the M's when Phillies GM. I dunno, he was advising the M’s when Phillies GM.

]]> By: dlb http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-304177 dlb Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:06:58 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6578#comment-304177 Look like Gillick is staying on with the Phils as an advisor so the worries about him lording over Jackie Z seem to be dead. Look like Gillick is staying on with the Phils as an advisor so the worries about him lording over Jackie Z seem to be dead.

]]> By: msb http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-304176 msb Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:53:13 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6578#comment-304176 ok, I am dim this morning. Age H? Age P? nevermind. hitters/pitchers. I was trying to factor in Pat Gillick's rising age to the graph, as well ok, I am dim this morning.

Age H?
Age P?

nevermind. hitters/pitchers.

I was trying to factor in Pat Gillick’s rising age to the graph, as well

]]> By: firova2 http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-304174 firova2 Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:58:37 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6578#comment-304174 Looks like an age chart for Jamie Moyer. Hitters are up there though, especially in Baltimore. Looks like an age chart for Jamie Moyer. Hitters are up there though, especially in Baltimore.

]]> By: diderot http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-304172 diderot Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:36:03 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6578#comment-304172 How about one more line...the average age of World Series winners along the same period on the horizontal axis...combined hitters and pitchers would be fine. How about one more line…the average age of World Series winners along the same period on the horizontal axis…combined hitters and pitchers would be fine.

]]> By: smb http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-304171 smb Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:15:36 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6578#comment-304171 Phils just named Amaro as Gillick's successor...it will be interesting to see what he does with so much inherited talent in the lineup, whether he tries to get younger quickly or focuses more on other aspects of the roster. Maybe we will have a hint by whether or not he attempts to resign Burrell...I wonder if Gillick would have resigned Burrell if he was sticking around. Phils just named Amaro as Gillick’s successor…it will be interesting to see what he does with so much inherited talent in the lineup, whether he tries to get younger quickly or focuses more on other aspects of the roster. Maybe we will have a hint by whether or not he attempts to resign Burrell…I wonder if Gillick would have resigned Burrell if he was sticking around.

]]> By: DMZ http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-304170 DMZ Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:59:38 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6578#comment-304170 There's a follow up to this that I think is even more fascinating. There’s a follow up to this that I think is even more fascinating.

]]> By: Dobbs http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-304168 Dobbs Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:37:04 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6578#comment-304168 Or the poor performance is perhaps because the new GM couldn't do his job as well as Gillick himself? It's not like Gillick started with everyone he had during his reign here, who's to say he wouldn't have kept it up had he stayed longer? Or the poor performance is perhaps because the new GM couldn’t do his job as well as Gillick himself?

It’s not like Gillick started with everyone he had during his reign here, who’s to say he wouldn’t have kept it up had he stayed longer?

]]> By: Paul B http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/03/gillick-team-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-304166 Paul B Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:21:50 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6578#comment-304166 Presumably, the upward trend during his stay with each team would be a causal factor on the poor performance of the teams after he leaves. Presumably, the upward trend during his stay with each team would be a causal factor on the poor performance of the teams after he leaves.

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