The story that won’t die

DMZ · November 17, 2008 at 7:14 am · Filed Under Mariners 

McLaren, in the Globe
Jeff, at Lookout Landing
Baker, at the Seattle Times

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14 Responses to “The story that won’t die”

  1. argh on November 17th, 2008 7:21 am

    I don’t know whether Baker doth protest too much, but he sure as hell protests a lot.

  2. terry on November 17th, 2008 8:23 am

    Wowsers, I think the issue is even more confused now.

    I hope this doesn’t effect season ticket sales.

  3. msb on November 17th, 2008 8:37 am

    can new managerial discussion fall under the purview of old managerial arguments?

    FWIW, blogging from Kirby Arnold and an older post from Larue that lean towards Chip Hale.

  4. DMZ on November 17th, 2008 8:45 am

    No, it cannot, but I appreciate the effort there.

  5. msb on November 17th, 2008 8:47 am

    ok, off with its head.

  6. Tek Jansen on November 17th, 2008 8:51 am

    Mac’s quote is straight forward. Jeff simply put Mac’s quote next to Baker’s quote. Baker then takes an awfully long walk to explain why the two quotes are not contradictory.

  7. fcb on November 17th, 2008 8:51 am

    ahahahahaha. Did anyone see Pedro Calderon’s comment? He accused LL of being racist, and rooting for the Rays, “all year”. I cant believe people out there favor a media mouthpiece dressed up as a “blog” over sites like LL and ussmariner. These are probably the same people who think Ichiro is overpaid, ERA and wins are how you evaluate pitching talent, and that dinosaurs never existed because they’re not mentioned in the bible.

    In the words of John Malcovich’s character in Burn after Reading, “League of Morons”

  8. JerBear on November 17th, 2008 9:02 am

    These are probably the same people who think Ichiro is overpaid, ERA and wins are how you evaluate pitching talent, and that dinosaurs never existed because they’re not mentioned in the bible.

    There’s actually some very detailed and incredible descriptions of dinosaurs in the Bible. But other than that, I agree with you.

    And I still haven’t seen Burn After Reading… but I’ve never seen a Coen Bros. flick I didn’t love.

  9. patl on November 17th, 2008 9:33 am

    Love the McLaren interview: the team sucked because Putz got hurt??!?

  10. Brian Rust on November 17th, 2008 9:42 am

    Whether or not there was a “meeting called” has little bearing on whether there was a problem or not, and I think Baker’s explanation makes it pretty clear there was.

    And I’m not sure anyone should objectively assume that a fired manager, actively seeking new employment, would not attempt to casually sweep under the rug problems he was unable to deal with. “A lot of stuff comes out that was really overblown.” Ummm, yeah.

  11. forte40 on November 17th, 2008 9:51 am

    [ot]

  12. Breadbaker on November 17th, 2008 11:21 am

    This really starts to sound like Captain Queeg and the strawberries.

    I think the McLaren quote about Putz was more of shorthand personal description of the season than a real excuse. The reality-based part of the quote was where he seems to understand that his qualities as a bench coach don’t translate into managing. He doesn’t say it directly, but it’s pretty clear from how he answers the question that that is what he is saying.

  13. Typical Idiot Fan on November 17th, 2008 11:39 am

    ahahahahaha. Did anyone see Pedro Calderon’s comment? He accused LL of being racist, and rooting for the Rays, “all year”.

    Couple of things:

    1) LL is not racist nor full of them, but those comment threads can be pretty hefty with the racist humor. LL simply doesn’t care if anybody’s offended (unless you mention the “f” word that rhymes with “maggot” or post anime pictures).

    2) LL, like most of us, had the Devil Rays pegged as a good team before the season began and was pretty much hoping they’d succeed just to shove it down the naysayer’s throats.

    So what he told you was true, from a certain point of view.

  14. wabbles on November 17th, 2008 1:15 pm

    Can we pound a garlic-covered stake (Wait! Make the stake entirely out of garlic!) into this story and move on to the real culprits behind last season? It sounds like the original story contained a kinda important error that blew it up into more than it should have been. As a reporter, I recognize how the mistake happened and also recognize the aftermath. And, once again, on a division winner it wouldn’t be important. Now let’s get back to talking about grittiness and hustle and all those things this team lacked last year that REALLY win ballgames.

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