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	<title>Comments on: This year&#8217;s Washburns</title>
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		<title>By: galaxieboi</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/18/this-years-washburns/comment-page-1/#comment-305257</link>
		<dc:creator>galaxieboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This year’s Washburns&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, and this may be the meanest thing anyone has ever called these pitchers.  Kinda jerky, Derek.</description>
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<p>Oh, and this may be the meanest thing anyone has ever called these pitchers.  Kinda jerky, Derek.</p>
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		<title>By: galaxieboi</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/18/this-years-washburns/comment-page-1/#comment-305250</link>
		<dc:creator>galaxieboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose if it&#039;s affecting is LOB%.  If runners take a shorter lead @ 1st, there&#039;s less of a chance of them scoring on a hit (well, some runners).  Now, it may be only a small number every year, but those extra few add up to a couple extra percentage points on LOB.  Just a theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose if it&#8217;s affecting is LOB%.  If runners take a shorter lead @ 1st, there&#8217;s less of a chance of them scoring on a hit (well, some runners).  Now, it may be only a small number every year, but those extra few add up to a couple extra percentage points on LOB.  Just a theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve T</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/18/this-years-washburns/comment-page-1/#comment-305225</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much does Moyer&#039;s great pickoff move affect his abnormally low FIP to ERA ratio?</description>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/18/this-years-washburns/comment-page-1/#comment-305222</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why should we wait to flip Washburn until the trade deadline?&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry, I was thinking (but didn&#039;t write) &quot;flip Washburn (now) or somebody (else) at the trade deadline&quot;</description>
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<p>Sorry, I was thinking (but didn&#8217;t write) &#8220;flip Washburn (now) or somebody (else) at the trade deadline&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AssumedName</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/18/this-years-washburns/comment-page-1/#comment-305219</link>
		<dc:creator>AssumedName</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read that Maddux has no intention of willingly pitching to the DH ever.  Bummer though, cuz it&#039;d be awesome to see him on the mound instead of Carlos/Jarrod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read that Maddux has no intention of willingly pitching to the DH ever.  Bummer though, cuz it&#8217;d be awesome to see him on the mound instead of Carlos/Jarrod.</p>
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		<title>By: NBarnes</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/18/this-years-washburns/comment-page-1/#comment-305216</link>
		<dc:creator>NBarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;3 Maddux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;3 Maddux.</p>
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		<title>By: galaxieboi</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/18/this-years-washburns/comment-page-1/#comment-305211</link>
		<dc:creator>galaxieboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave is of course correct that we probably can&#039;t credit Sabathia&#039;s success this season to his extra high LOB%.  However, I think for this purpose LOB works well for seperating a lower tier of pitchers.  Not super stars and probably not that 2nd tier, but the lower level guys.  That&#039;s where the bargains will be.  Like Byrd and Hendrickson, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave is of course correct that we probably can&#8217;t credit Sabathia&#8217;s success this season to his extra high LOB%.  However, I think for this purpose LOB works well for seperating a lower tier of pitchers.  Not super stars and probably not that 2nd tier, but the lower level guys.  That&#8217;s where the bargains will be.  Like Byrd and Hendrickson, for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should we wait to flip Washburn until the trade deadline?</description>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to see Maddux too.  He could step into the (long dormant) Gaylord Perry Teal Shoes of Near-Retirement as he makes one last stop before the HoF.  But yeah, I don&#039;t see it happening either.

Hendrickson is kind of interesting as a below-the-radar pick for a back-of-the-rotation starter with some upside.  I&#039;m not wild on bringing over pitchers from the NL, but Hendrickson spent most of his career in the AL.  And hey, he&#039;s local -- he even went to WSU.

But do the M&#039;s even need to be looking at starters at this point?  I mean, pick up value when you see it, sure, and I guess it gives you the flexibility to flip Washburn or somebody at the trade deadline when your (hopefully) improved defense makes them look better, but this team has much bigger problems to solve (and I&#039;m not making a Silva fat joke.  Wait, I guess I just did.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see Maddux too.  He could step into the (long dormant) Gaylord Perry Teal Shoes of Near-Retirement as he makes one last stop before the HoF.  But yeah, I don&#8217;t see it happening either.</p>
<p>Hendrickson is kind of interesting as a below-the-radar pick for a back-of-the-rotation starter with some upside.  I&#8217;m not wild on bringing over pitchers from the NL, but Hendrickson spent most of his career in the AL.  And hey, he&#8217;s local &#8212; he even went to WSU.</p>
<p>But do the M&#8217;s even need to be looking at starters at this point?  I mean, pick up value when you see it, sure, and I guess it gives you the flexibility to flip Washburn or somebody at the trade deadline when your (hopefully) improved defense makes them look better, but this team has much bigger problems to solve (and I&#8217;m not making a Silva fat joke.  Wait, I guess I just did.)</p>
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		<title>By: DaveValleDrinkNight</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveValleDrinkNight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PH level?
Now there&#039;s a stat we should look at!

Maddux was talking retirement last week. It&#039;s nice to dream but there&#039;s no way he&#039;s playing for a non-contender in his last year or two. Same thing with RJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PH level?<br />
Now there&#8217;s a stat we should look at!</p>
<p>Maddux was talking retirement last week. It&#8217;s nice to dream but there&#8217;s no way he&#8217;s playing for a non-contender in his last year or two. Same thing with RJ.</p>
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