Comments on: Putz trade close http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: bakomariner http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/comment-page-2/#comment-306817 bakomariner Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:27:22 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6855#comment-306817 This sucks for JJ...worked his ass off to become one of the best closers in the game and now has to "set-up" K-Rod...whom we don't know as a person, but was hated as an opponent... Best of luck JJ...re-sign with the Ms in 2011 for OUR run at the World Series! This sucks for JJ…worked his ass off to become one of the best closers in the game and now has to “set-up” K-Rod…whom we don’t know as a person, but was hated as an opponent…

Best of luck JJ…re-sign with the Ms in 2011 for OUR run at the World Series!

]]> By: greymstreet http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/comment-page-2/#comment-306813 greymstreet Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:23:03 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6855#comment-306813 Don't bad things happen when we trade young infielders to the Indians? Maybe they want Yuni... Don’t bad things happen when we trade young infielders to the Indians?

Maybe they want Yuni…

]]> By: bakomariner http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/comment-page-2/#comment-306811 bakomariner Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:21:03 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6855#comment-306811 It's official... "UPDATED 11:12 p.m. — Done deal: Mets acquire Putz The Mets have acquired a setup man for new closer Francisco Rodriguez — and that setup man is another closer from the American League West. J.J. Putz is headed New York in a three-team trade with the Mariners and Indians, according to major-league sources. Under terms of the deal, the Mets get Putz, outfielder Jeremy Reed and reliever Sean Green from Seattle. The Mariners receive reliever Aaron Heilman, outfielder Endy Chavez and first baseman Mike Carp from the Mets. They also get Franklin Gutierrez from the Indians and minor leaguers. The Indians get reliever Joe Smith from the Mets and infielder Luis Valbuena from Seattle. From the Mets' perspective, the deal is Heilman and Smith for Putz. Chavez and Reed are simply an exchange of backup outfielders, Smith and Green are an exchange of right-handed groundball specialists." It’s official…

“UPDATED 11:12 p.m. — Done deal: Mets acquire Putz
The Mets have acquired a setup man for new closer Francisco Rodriguez — and that setup man is another closer from the American League West.

J.J. Putz is headed New York in a three-team trade with the Mariners and Indians, according to major-league sources.

Under terms of the deal, the Mets get Putz, outfielder Jeremy Reed and reliever Sean Green from Seattle. The Mariners receive reliever Aaron Heilman, outfielder Endy Chavez and first baseman Mike Carp from the Mets. They also get Franklin Gutierrez from the Indians and minor leaguers. The Indians get reliever Joe Smith from the Mets and infielder Luis Valbuena from Seattle.

From the Mets’ perspective, the deal is Heilman and Smith for Putz. Chavez and Reed are simply an exchange of backup outfielders, Smith and Green are an exchange of right-handed groundball specialists.”

]]> By: terry http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/comment-page-2/#comment-306809 terry Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:20:55 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6855#comment-306809 <blockquote>Scoring runs or preventing runs… both are contributions, terry.</blockquote> Yes, but you still need to score more than you give up.

Scoring runs or preventing runs… both are contributions, terry.

Yes, but you still need to score more than you give up.

]]> By: bakomariner http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/comment-page-2/#comment-306810 bakomariner Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:20:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6855#comment-306810 It's official... It’s official…

]]> By: Benne http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/comment-page-2/#comment-306806 Benne Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:19:24 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6855#comment-306806 <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8922020/Wednesday-MLB-winter-meetings-blog" rel="nofollow">Rosenthal</a> makes it official. Rosenthal makes it official.

]]> By: Typical Idiot Fan http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/comment-page-2/#comment-306804 Typical Idiot Fan Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:17:34 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6855#comment-306804 <blockquote>and am curious to learn more about Green.</blockquote> Righty killing groundball machine. Has a nice two seamer he can throw for strikes and a three-quarters -> sidearm delivered slider that really messes with right handers (think Jeff Nelson). Sucks against lefties.

and am curious to learn more about Green.

Righty killing groundball machine. Has a nice two seamer he can throw for strikes and a three-quarters -> sidearm delivered slider that really messes with right handers (think Jeff Nelson).

Sucks against lefties.

]]> By: Sports on a Schtick http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/comment-page-1/#comment-306803 Sports on a Schtick Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:15:54 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6855#comment-306803 Like most people, the prospects of Morrow returning to the pen is worrying. But we'll see. Z has demonstrated so far that he knows what he's doing. Like most people, the prospects of Morrow returning to the pen is worrying. But we’ll see. Z has demonstrated so far that he knows what he’s doing.

]]> By: Dave http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/comment-page-1/#comment-306802 Dave Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:15:32 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6855#comment-306802 Green is Smith - groundballs, death to righties, can't get lefties out to save his life. Green is Smith – groundballs, death to righties, can’t get lefties out to save his life.

]]> By: Typical Idiot Fan http://ussmariner.com/2008/12/10/putz-trade-close/comment-page-1/#comment-306801 Typical Idiot Fan Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:15:19 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6855#comment-306801 By the by, Heilman isn't a bad pitcher. Overall, he suffered from walking too many batters (14% walk rate), but the strikeout rate (22.4%) and everything else looked "fine" (groundball rate was down from his usual norms, tho). I don't think he would be a bad pickup. Between him, Rowland-Smith, and others, it's not as if we can't let someone compete for our fifth starter spot. By the by, Heilman isn’t a bad pitcher. Overall, he suffered from walking too many batters (14% walk rate), but the strikeout rate (22.4%) and everything else looked “fine” (groundball rate was down from his usual norms, tho).

I don’t think he would be a bad pickup. Between him, Rowland-Smith, and others, it’s not as if we can’t let someone compete for our fifth starter spot.

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