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	<title>Comments on: Brian Fuentes signs with the Angels</title>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2009/01/02/brian-fuentes-signs-with-the-angels/comment-page-1/#comment-308563</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to ye olde prognosticators of yore, there had to be a decent chunk of bad luck involved with how badly Cirillo turned out.  I&#039;m too lazy to calculate his Marcel forecast for 2002, but it would have had to be at least a .360 wOBA, &lt;i&gt;maybe&lt;/i&gt; a .355 wOBA, and he wound up with a .281 wOBA.  So it was essentially an unpredictable drop-off.  Even in a highly disappointing year, he should have been able to hit for at least a .310-.315 wOBA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to ye olde prognosticators of yore, there had to be a decent chunk of bad luck involved with how badly Cirillo turned out.  I&#8217;m too lazy to calculate his Marcel forecast for 2002, but it would have had to be at least a .360 wOBA, <i>maybe</i> a .355 wOBA, and he wound up with a .281 wOBA.  So it was essentially an unpredictable drop-off.  Even in a highly disappointing year, he should have been able to hit for at least a .310-.315 wOBA.</p>
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		<title>By: Mere Tantalisers</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2009/01/02/brian-fuentes-signs-with-the-angels/comment-page-1/#comment-308562</link>
		<dc:creator>Mere Tantalisers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there goes your credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there goes your credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: spokane dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>spokane dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather face Brian Fuentes than Francisco Rodriguez in the 9th inning. Good news for the Ms, methinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather face Brian Fuentes than Francisco Rodriguez in the 9th inning. Good news for the Ms, methinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2009/01/02/brian-fuentes-signs-with-the-angels/comment-page-1/#comment-308559</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Brian Raabe. Me, too.

I still wonder how he would have fared as a stop-gap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Brian Raabe. Me, too.</p>
<p>I still wonder how he would have fared as a stop-gap.</p>
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		<title>By: Benne</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2009/01/02/brian-fuentes-signs-with-the-angels/comment-page-1/#comment-308558</link>
		<dc:creator>Benne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, we were all pretty dumb back then.  I remember being incredibly excited about getting Cirillo, then cursing his name less than half a season later.  Good times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we were all pretty dumb back then.  I remember being incredibly excited about getting Cirillo, then cursing his name less than half a season later.  Good times.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam S</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2009/01/02/brian-fuentes-signs-with-the-angels/comment-page-1/#comment-308557</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you thinking of Kevin Jarvis&#039;s bad contract they got back when they traded &lt;em&gt;away&lt;/em&gt; Cirillo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you thinking of Kevin Jarvis&#8217;s bad contract they got back when they traded <em>away</em> Cirillo?</p>
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		<title>By: NoStars</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2009/01/02/brian-fuentes-signs-with-the-angels/comment-page-1/#comment-308556</link>
		<dc:creator>NoStars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Jose Vidro. But he&#039;s a switch hitter! Did anyone read the Jeff Passan article on  &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AjwHxarn250Jk7CG5IvKcanZn414?slug=jp-hsdmariners010109&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yahoo!?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Jose Vidro. But he&#8217;s a switch hitter! Did anyone read the Jeff Passan article on  <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AjwHxarn250Jk7CG5IvKcanZn414?slug=jp-hsdmariners010109&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns" rel="nofollow">Yahoo!?</a></p>
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		<title>By: cheeseheadtransplantmax</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheeseheadtransplantmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vidro may be 4th, but Winn is 7th. At least Winn plays defense and runs. Yes, I realize he is with SF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vidro may be 4th, but Winn is 7th. At least Winn plays defense and runs. Yes, I realize he is with SF.</p>
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		<title>By: SonOfZavaras</title>
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		<dc:creator>SonOfZavaras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 01:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the lighter side...Brian Raabe? Really? Oh, well....I once thought Arquimedez Pozo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the lighter side&#8230;Brian Raabe? Really? Oh, well&#8230;.I once thought Arquimedez Pozo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SonOfZavaras</title>
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		<dc:creator>SonOfZavaras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 01:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the double post.

But, DMZ... you were far from the only guy who didn&#039;t think Fuentes would amount to much...when he first came up, I thought &quot;hmmm...killer, unusual pickoff move but the league will adapt to that in about two weeks...nothing special otherwise&quot;.

And in the Cirillo trade, I thought we&#039;d fleeced the Rox back then.

Regarding toxic contract, Neagle and Hampton were the only two I remember from that era the Rockies committed to. I think you were thinking Hampton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post.</p>
<p>But, DMZ&#8230; you were far from the only guy who didn&#8217;t think Fuentes would amount to much&#8230;when he first came up, I thought &#8220;hmmm&#8230;killer, unusual pickoff move but the league will adapt to that in about two weeks&#8230;nothing special otherwise&#8221;.</p>
<p>And in the Cirillo trade, I thought we&#8217;d fleeced the Rox back then.</p>
<p>Regarding toxic contract, Neagle and Hampton were the only two I remember from that era the Rockies committed to. I think you were thinking Hampton.</p>
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