Comments on: Garrett Olson

By: Breadbaker

Breadbaker — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:30:22 +0000

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By: MrMalibog

MrMalibog — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:17:11 +0000

[name calling]

By: eponymous coward

eponymous coward — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:00:33 +0000

According to projections, Cedeno might or might not be a better hitter than Yuni

Cedeno’s range of projections are from .329 to .299. Yuni’s are from .308 to .313. While on the surface that APPEARS to be the same, recall that at least one of those projection systems (Marcel) does not factor in minor league baseball performance (which, IMO, makes it flawed- minor league baseball is still baseball, if at a lesser level, and properly adding in performance adjusted for league should help us get more accurate information). Please note that CHONE DOES factor in minor league baseball performance, and projects Cedeno considerably more strongly than Marcels does

Yuni never hit for power in the minors, by the by (granted, he went through there awfully fast).

By: Paul B

Paul B — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:30:27 +0000

MrMalibog on January 29th, 2009 2:48 am

Last year Yuni hit .279 but both years before that he hit .289 which is better

Try using something other than BA to measure a player’s value, and someone might pay attention to your point.

By: daveblev

daveblev — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:56:48 +0000

Having seen Garrett Olson pitch in person down here in Virginia with the Norfolk Tides, I like this deal. Harbor Park has huge dimensions much like Safeco, obviously that helped his minor league totals vice the bandbox of Camden Yards. They are moving the fences in this year at Norfolk though, hitters have complained about lost homeruns.

By: gwangung

gwangung — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:37:24 +0000

Getting guys like Olson and Cedeno who failed in their first try at the bigs has ALWAYS been a great way to exploit a market inefficiency.

Yeah..at VERY WORST, they improve depth. At best, they improve the front line significantly.

Gee, what’s bad about that?

By: James T

James T — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:21:44 +0000

Wow. I’ve really been impressed with your man Z so far. When he was being rumored as a candidate for the job, one of the tidbits mentioned in the press was that everybody likes him. And some folks thought this was, in itself, good. But I thought it was probably closer to bad. Well, obviously, it doesn’t matter. Getting guys like Olson and Cedeno who failed in their first try at the bigs has ALWAYS been a great way to exploit a market inefficiency.

Yeah, this Lou Brock kid’s not doing much for us. You’ll give us Ernie Broglio for him! Etc etc etc.

Just a great move. This combined with a smart big picture vision of what kind of team you should build for Safeco along with taking guys like Blengino (sp?) and Tango seriously are great signs for you guys. In a couple years you’ll be fighting the Rangers for the division title.

By: dchappelle

dchappelle — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:12:56 +0000

Yuni is NOT a good hitter. His career wOBA is .303. Last year his was .299. NOT GOOD. Although certainly better than the numbers Ronny Cedeno has put up. The reason to get Cedeno is because of his minor league numbers. Let’s just hope he’s not one of the inexplicable AAAA players (that mash AAA pitching, but can’t make the leap).

If you’re not familiar with wOBA . Surprised this isn’t on the left handy links yet.

By: Typical Idiot Fan

Typical Idiot Fan — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:56:34 +0000

Good crickets…

Those are facts and cannot be argued!

Some of them are facts.

Last year Yuni hit .279 but both years before that he hit .289

This is a fact.

which is better than good

This is an opinion.

with 36 doubles and only 42 SOs.

Fact.

Yuni had the 4th highest avg of M’s regulars last season and one of those (Ibanez) is now gone.

Fact.

he surely is not the weak spot in our line-up.

Opinion.

And the big one:

Yuni… [is one] of our better hitters

Opinion.

In your mind, your facts support your opinion. On this site, however, and others where more advanced methods of stat analysis are incorporated, your facts are inaccurate. Therefore, your facts CAN… in fact… be argued.

By: Henry Jasen

Henry Jasen — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:26:06 +0000

Yuni is not a good batter. He had an on base percentage of .300, 12th on the team for players with more than 50 ABs. His power numbers were ‘better’ with a .392 Slugging percentage that put him 4th on a woefully weak team.
It is hard to believe that Cedeno with a .328 OBP last year and a great minor league history, won’t win the job in ST.