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	<title>Comments on: Morrow Feeling Tightness</title>
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		<title>By: jamesllegade</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2009/03/05/morrow-feeling-tightness/comment-page-1/#comment-314912</link>
		<dc:creator>jamesllegade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone teach him the knuckle curve...! and get those ball in the humidor! STAT!

We demand this kid hurry development of his spinners to be worthy of a starting role and then he hurts himself in the mad rush.  

He SHOULD have been working on it in Tacoma last year as a starter! One more piece of fallout from the dark era known as the &#039;Bavasi Years&#039;.

Thank god they wont get the same chance on PhiPhi La Phew!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone teach him the knuckle curve&#8230;! and get those ball in the humidor! STAT!</p>
<p>We demand this kid hurry development of his spinners to be worthy of a starting role and then he hurts himself in the mad rush.  </p>
<p>He SHOULD have been working on it in Tacoma last year as a starter! One more piece of fallout from the dark era known as the &#8216;Bavasi Years&#8217;.</p>
<p>Thank god they wont get the same chance on PhiPhi La Phew!</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drayer mentioned in her blog that Bedard was a little frustrated that the high, dry air in AZ made his stuff break less.  It&#039;s possible Morrow is having the same problem and pressing.  I seem to recall him having a short forearm issue last ST also.  They seem to be pretty common early in the year (Felix had his early in the regular season a couple of years ago).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drayer mentioned in her blog that Bedard was a little frustrated that the high, dry air in AZ made his stuff break less.  It&#8217;s possible Morrow is having the same problem and pressing.  I seem to recall him having a short forearm issue last ST also.  They seem to be pretty common early in the year (Felix had his early in the regular season a couple of years ago).</p>
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		<title>By: jjracoon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The description of the tightness is in the forearm and probably caused from pressing too hard with his fingers to make his breaking stuff break. I like the idea of four starters with fill ins for the 5th one but based on how many pitchers are fighting for a spot that is not very likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The description of the tightness is in the forearm and probably caused from pressing too hard with his fingers to make his breaking stuff break. I like the idea of four starters with fill ins for the 5th one but based on how many pitchers are fighting for a spot that is not very likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Coolalvin206</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coolalvin206</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any other teams have to watch thier fragile pitchers that have already picthed at this level?

[shut up about Lincecum already]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any other teams have to watch thier fragile pitchers that have already picthed at this level?</p>
<p>[shut up about Lincecum already]</p>
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		<title>By: John D.</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2009/03/05/morrow-feeling-tightness/comment-page-1/#comment-314716</link>
		<dc:creator>John D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;how many of the 2003 “never missed a start” rotation are still fulltime major league starters?&lt;/em&gt;

What&#039;s the point? Many of the pitchers who started games five years ago are (for a multitude of reasons) no longer starting, whether they&#039;d missed starts in 2003 or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>how many of the 2003 “never missed a start” rotation are still fulltime major league starters?</em></p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point? Many of the pitchers who started games five years ago are (for a multitude of reasons) no longer starting, whether they&#8217;d missed starts in 2003 or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[no]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[no]</p>
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		<title>By: coasty141</title>
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		<dc:creator>coasty141</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to argue anything. Just pointing out that Dave&#039;s 120-140 projection (while realistic) is still somewhat optimistic. It seems like some people want to pencil Brandon in for 200 innings just because he&#039;s a starter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to argue anything. Just pointing out that Dave&#8217;s 120-140 projection (while realistic) is still somewhat optimistic. It seems like some people want to pencil Brandon in for 200 innings just because he&#8217;s a starter.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure I read about or otherwise vaguely remember a rotation that had four regular starters plus two &quot;swingman&quot; long relievers (one LH, one RH) who more or less alternated as the 5th starter depending on usage or stacked lineups.  Obviously if a couple of your other starters have meltdowns in the same week and you use both your long relievers you end up short a starter, but that kind of thing plays havoc with a pitching staff no matter how it is composed (remember &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX200406240.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;that game in 2004&lt;/a&gt; in which Moyer was forced to come in as a reliever?) 

Maybe someone has a more concrete memory of this, or maybe I&#039;ve got a LaRussa of blood to the head and am just hallucinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure I read about or otherwise vaguely remember a rotation that had four regular starters plus two &#8220;swingman&#8221; long relievers (one LH, one RH) who more or less alternated as the 5th starter depending on usage or stacked lineups.  Obviously if a couple of your other starters have meltdowns in the same week and you use both your long relievers you end up short a starter, but that kind of thing plays havoc with a pitching staff no matter how it is composed (remember <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX200406240.shtml" rel="nofollow">that game in 2004</a> in which Moyer was forced to come in as a reliever?) </p>
<p>Maybe someone has a more concrete memory of this, or maybe I&#8217;ve got a LaRussa of blood to the head and am just hallucinating.</p>
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		<title>By: TranquilPsychosis</title>
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		<dc:creator>TranquilPsychosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;As coastly points out, 120-140 innings pitched is a career high. That’s not something to be ignored.&lt;/em&gt;

 Those numbers would also be career highs for RRS.
Not sure it supports your argument much coasty, but it does add a certain intrigue to your idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>As coastly points out, 120-140 innings pitched is a career high. That’s not something to be ignored.</em></p>
<p> Those numbers would also be career highs for RRS.<br />
Not sure it supports your argument much coasty, but it does add a certain intrigue to your idea.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t agree with the premise. He was a college starter, &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which says nothing, given the markedly different usage patterns of college vs. major league pitchers.

&lt;blockquote&gt; The history has the same post hoc reasoning behind it that most of the things this blog exists to debunk do. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, no, there&#039;s a mechanism behind it. There&#039;s some prima facie reasons there. Right now, you&#039;re going to have to bring up some other mechanism that makes more sense than that.

As coastly points out, 120-140 innings pitched is a career high. That&#039;s not something to be ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t agree with the premise. He was a college starter, </p></blockquote>
<p>Which says nothing, given the markedly different usage patterns of college vs. major league pitchers.</p>
<blockquote><p> The history has the same post hoc reasoning behind it that most of the things this blog exists to debunk do. </p></blockquote>
<p>Well, no, there&#8217;s a mechanism behind it. There&#8217;s some prima facie reasons there. Right now, you&#8217;re going to have to bring up some other mechanism that makes more sense than that.</p>
<p>As coastly points out, 120-140 innings pitched is a career high. That&#8217;s not something to be ignored.</p>
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