Ichiro returns to fetid odor of Silva suggestions

DMZ · March 27, 2009 at 8:04 am · Filed Under Mariners 

With the return of our Japanese contingent, Baker at the Times finally got to ask Ichiro about last year’s chemistry questions. Ichiro: Time to act like “professionals” is the result, a long piece including much Ichiro-ness.

But I want to take a second and question the premise of this:

There’s been a whole lot said since Ichiro was last here and he had to be asked for a response to all of it. Doesn’t matter whether it makes us feel uncomfortable asking, or whether the timing would have been better two months ago. Ichiro wasn’t here two months ago. He was here today.

Wait:

he had to be asked for a response to all of it.

Does he? What happens if he isn’t?

Now, this is a fine follow-up, in which a story which was built, briefly caught fire, and was rekindled this spring is continued.

But at the heart of this is the fundamental disagreement I’ve had with the whole thing: that it must be reported, and followed. The whole thing operates on the premise that it’s important, which I obviously disagree with, and moreover that it was a cause of rather than result of the team’s poor fortunes last year. We’ve talked about that a lot: clearly Geoff believes that this was a key factor in last year’s failure, and it’s been something he’s talked about over and over (and included his reasons, so I’ll refer you there).

What you get then is this:
* Clubhouse chemistry is an important factor in a team’s success
* Therefore, clubhouse chemistry is an important story to cover
* Therefore, there’s a need to report stories which allege clubhouse factions, threats of violence averted by clubhouse * meetings, etc, even if that means using and protecting blind sources, and itself creates controversy
* When clubhouse chemistry is an ongoing controversy and topic of discussion, further stories following up on it are called for

Which made this exchange stand out

After asking me for specifics about what Riggleman had said about the other players, he then immediately asked if I had any specific examples of what he could do differently to make the situation better.

Since he seemed to be waiting for an answer to his question, I shrugged and said: “Talk to them?” (Refering, of course, to anyone with a beef). [sic]

Not really my place to be telling anyone in that clubhouse how to go about their business, but he was asking and someone had to fill the void, so I put it out there. Once I did, Ichiro finally did answer the initial question., but he was asking and someone had to fill the void, so I put it out there. Once I did, Ichiro finally did answer the initial question.

Wait, what?

Not really my place to be telling anyone in that clubhouse how to go about their business

This is where it all led. It is, by this logic, okay to judge that chemistry is bad, to advance the opinion that chemistry is important, use that to justify covering and later actively building a story from blind sourcing (later found to be of particularly dubious quality), creating a nationally-covered controversy about Ichiro’s safety in the M’s clubhouse, cover it through spring training again as a possible risk to this year’s team and so on.

Since he seemed to be waiting for an answer to his question, I shrugged and said: “Talk to them?”

I don’t want to get into the absurdity of that response, since obviously Geoff wasn’t prepared to offer a cogent analysis. I want to get into what went into that response:

In all of the reporting done on this, in all of the interviews named and unnamed, nothing came up?

Really? At no point in talking to Carlos Silva about what a jerk Ichiro was did the question “what do you want him to do?” come up? Or Putz? Or, assuming there were additional sources, those guys?

And if that was it, if the only thing Silva wanted was for the cool guy to come over and talk to him more often — doesn’t that destroy the premise of the whole thing, from start to finish? If the people who are complaining so long and so vociferously have complaints so trivial that they don’t even have a way to be resolved, there’s no reason this should ever have been a story unless it was one about what a moron the complainer was.

If someone’s leaving their towels lying around, that’s a specific complaint that can be covered and addressed. And maybe there’s even a harm we can address.

That’s not what’s going on here. Again, Silva and Putz and whoever else might have been in on this were anti-Ichiro for no reported reason, their complaints unaddressable. And yet the stories written weren’t “Carlos Silva is a jerk” but “Ichiro selfish”.

And we still don’t have an answer to the question of what Ichiro is supposed to do to heal a rift that may not exist now and which he never created.

I cannot wait for the season to start in the hopes that we can get past this.

Comments

54 Responses to “Ichiro returns to fetid odor of Silva suggestions”

  1. 3cardmonty on March 27th, 2009 4:00 pm

    While I certainly haven’t followed Baker’s reporting on this pseudo-controversy word for word, is it really fair to characterize his stories as “Ichiro is selfish”? Wouldn’t “Anonymous: Ichiro is selfish” be more accurate?

    I’m not saying this garbage is newsworthy (it’s not) or that Baker isn’t stirring the pot (he is). It’s just his defense to this kind of sentiment is going to be a more self-aggrandizing version of “I’m just a simple stenographer. People say stuff to me and I write it down.” That’s lazy journalism, but it’s not the same as editorializing.

    It’s not really a choice between “Silva’s a moron,” and “Ichiro’s selfish,” as neither op-ed would really be within Baker’s purview. I guarantee if some anonymous source told him “Silva’s a moron,” he’d print it.

  2. Breadbaker on March 27th, 2009 4:49 pm

    What you get then is this:
    * Clubhouse chemistry is an important factor in a team’s success
    * Therefore, clubhouse chemistry is an important story to cover
    * Therefore, there’s a need to report stories which allege clubhouse factions, threats of violence averted by clubhouse * meetings, etc, even if that means using and protecting blind sources, and itself creates controversy
    * When clubhouse chemistry is an ongoing controversy and topic of discussion, further stories following up on it are called for

    I think the real analogy is:

    * Clubhouse chemistry stories always get a lot of hype, which sells newspapers
    * Therefore, clubhouse chemistry stories must be reported
    * Therefore, reporters must come up with excuses to continue clubhouse chemistry stories as often as possible

    As Dave and Derek and others have emphasized throughout, bad teams lose games and good teams win games. Winning makes it seem that the clubhouse has chemistry and losing makes it seem that the clubhouse does not have chemistry. In baseball history, however, there are numerous examples of players who hated one another and nevertheless played well together. An outfielder throws the ball to the cutoff man he hates as long as he’s in position; there is no opportunity for something like the alleged freezeout of Isiah Thomas at an NBA All-Star Game one year.

    If I were putting together a baseball club, I would indeed look for a personality type, and that would the type who understand that the kind of preparation and professionalism Ichiro talks about is what is needed to make a club win. They are innumerable people on this planet who know how to have a good time at work. There are only a few hundred people who know how to play baseball at a major league level (and the WBC showed that they are not all in the major leagues). Winning baseball clubs are not based on the number of good time Charlies but the number of good hitters, pitchers and fielders. If the 2008 Mariners had all gotten along, they’d have lost exactly as many games.

  3. JMHawkins on March 28th, 2009 8:51 am

    Last year wasn’t the first year the M’s sucked. It was however, the first year they sucked with Baker covering them. Frankly, whatever else he does worth praising as a reporter, Baker is the clubhouse cancer in this story.

    Or, as Ichiro said in response to the first clubhouse chemistry quesiton, “I think you are more of an expert, next question.”

  4. wilmer on April 1st, 2009 8:32 am

    Griffey needs to be limited to sharing DH with Sweeney. Over the long haul Sweeney will contribute more. Chavez and Balentien own left field.

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