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	<title>Comments on: Dave On Radio Times Two</title>
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		<title>By: SonOfZavaras</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2009/05/20/dave-on-radio-times-two/comment-page-1/#comment-329380</link>
		<dc:creator>SonOfZavaras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what?  I&#039;m a proponent of telling Morrow &quot;Listen, fella...you have maybe two years of big-league service time and you&#039;re not even 25....whattaya afraid of, that you go back to the minors to &lt;strong&gt;become a better pitcher&lt;/strong&gt;, you&#039;re not gonna make it back? Get over there and throw 40% breaking pitches.&quot;

If he&#039;s genuinely against starting, great. Fine. That tells me he wants to be trade-bait somewhere down the line. 

But an arm like his is best as a starter, he just needs to learn how to pitch without relying so much on a great fastball- I remember Jim Palmer said &quot;great starting pitching is dependent on learning to survive&quot;. Send Morrow to Triple-A so he can learn how to survive.

The majors are not a damn development league. 

Hell, Brandon...learn to cut it like Rivera or Pettitte does. Learn a split. If you don&#039;t have a feel for the change, there&#039;s a sinker or slider out there you probably &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; master.

I agree with what someone else said earlier: who is Morrow&#039;s agent, and why is he doing such a shitty job advising him?

I am also afraid Felix might well warrant looking at very closely- the inconsistency year after year is maddening. But I also am thinking the instant he puts on pin-stripes or any other uniform, he becomes The King, period...and makes us look like utter idiots for giving up on him.

And just to pose the question....Clement. Morrow. Felix. Who as an organization is getting less out of their on-hand, young, premium talent than what we are??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what?  I&#8217;m a proponent of telling Morrow &#8220;Listen, fella&#8230;you have maybe two years of big-league service time and you&#8217;re not even 25&#8230;.whattaya afraid of, that you go back to the minors to <strong>become a better pitcher</strong>, you&#8217;re not gonna make it back? Get over there and throw 40% breaking pitches.&#8221;</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s genuinely against starting, great. Fine. That tells me he wants to be trade-bait somewhere down the line. </p>
<p>But an arm like his is best as a starter, he just needs to learn how to pitch without relying so much on a great fastball- I remember Jim Palmer said &#8220;great starting pitching is dependent on learning to survive&#8221;. Send Morrow to Triple-A so he can learn how to survive.</p>
<p>The majors are not a damn development league. </p>
<p>Hell, Brandon&#8230;learn to cut it like Rivera or Pettitte does. Learn a split. If you don&#8217;t have a feel for the change, there&#8217;s a sinker or slider out there you probably <em>can</em> master.</p>
<p>I agree with what someone else said earlier: who is Morrow&#8217;s agent, and why is he doing such a shitty job advising him?</p>
<p>I am also afraid Felix might well warrant looking at very closely- the inconsistency year after year is maddening. But I also am thinking the instant he puts on pin-stripes or any other uniform, he becomes The King, period&#8230;and makes us look like utter idiots for giving up on him.</p>
<p>And just to pose the question&#8230;.Clement. Morrow. Felix. Who as an organization is getting less out of their on-hand, young, premium talent than what we are??</p>
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		<title>By: Diehard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diehard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what happens when Bavasi had Squiggy as a scout for the Mariners.</description>
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		<title>By: Red Apple</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2009/05/20/dave-on-radio-times-two/comment-page-1/#comment-329368</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Apple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voldemort, with a &quot;d.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: Red Apple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Apple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think before the M&#039;s ever draft another pitcher so high, they need to really try to find out if he&#039;s got the drive and work ethic to be a starter. I&#039;m really disgusted by Morrow and Aumont. If you want a reliever, just dip your hand into a barrel of hundreds of bodies and see what sticks to the wall.

I won&#039;t mention his name...we&#039;re sick of hearing his name...moderate me if you want...but I&#039;ll bet he&#039;s got amazing competitiveness, and I&#039;d wager that it drips off of him (the USSM&#039;s Lord Voltemort of young MLB pitchers). He, who&#039;d throw 150 pitches if you left him out there, and battle until his arm fell off.

Damn you, Morrow and Aumont!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think before the M&#8217;s ever draft another pitcher so high, they need to really try to find out if he&#8217;s got the drive and work ethic to be a starter. I&#8217;m really disgusted by Morrow and Aumont. If you want a reliever, just dip your hand into a barrel of hundreds of bodies and see what sticks to the wall.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t mention his name&#8230;we&#8217;re sick of hearing his name&#8230;moderate me if you want&#8230;but I&#8217;ll bet he&#8217;s got amazing competitiveness, and I&#8217;d wager that it drips off of him (the USSM&#8217;s Lord Voltemort of young MLB pitchers). He, who&#8217;d throw 150 pitches if you left him out there, and battle until his arm fell off.</p>
<p>Damn you, Morrow and Aumont!</p>
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		<title>By: dingla</title>
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		<dc:creator>dingla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could not manage to get the live feed to play for Sean Widmer&#039;s show. What was covered?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could not manage to get the live feed to play for Sean Widmer&#8217;s show. What was covered?</p>
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		<title>By: KaminaAyato</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaminaAyato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Give him multiple innings in lower level stress situations to try and work on all his pitches.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But he &lt;a href=&quot;http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/index.php?s_type=2&amp;sp_type=1&amp;batterX=0&amp;inning1=y&amp;inning2=y&amp;inning3=y&amp;inning4=y&amp;inning5=y&amp;inning6=y&amp;inning7=y&amp;inning8=y&amp;inning9=y&amp;month=05&amp;day=18&amp;game=gid_2009_05_18_anamlb_seamlb_1%2F&amp;year=2009&amp;pitchSel=453344.xml&amp;prevGame=gid_2009_05_18_anamlb_seamlb_1%2F&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/a&gt;.

42 pitches, 9 non-fastballs (6 sliders, 2 changeups, 1 curveball).

I don&#039;t know if you can consider this &quot;working&quot; on his pitches.  Gah.  Felix and Morrow seem to be suffering from the whole &quot;radar gun&quot; syndrome - wanting to throw nothing but gas.

To Felix and Morrow - your job is to get outs without giving up runs and to go deep into games - &lt;strong&gt;NOT&lt;/strong&gt; to strike out batters.  Accumulating K&#039;s is a side-effect of achieving that objective.

There&#039;s your memo guys... now let&#039;s get that light bulb burning and get with the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Give him multiple innings in lower level stress situations to try and work on all his pitches.</p></blockquote>
<p>But he <a href="http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/index.php?s_type=2&amp;sp_type=1&amp;batterX=0&amp;inning1=y&amp;inning2=y&amp;inning3=y&amp;inning4=y&amp;inning5=y&amp;inning6=y&amp;inning7=y&amp;inning8=y&amp;inning9=y&amp;month=05&amp;day=18&amp;game=gid_2009_05_18_anamlb_seamlb_1%2F&amp;year=2009&amp;pitchSel=453344.xml&amp;prevGame=gid_2009_05_18_anamlb_seamlb_1%2F" rel="nofollow">didn&#8217;t</a>.</p>
<p>42 pitches, 9 non-fastballs (6 sliders, 2 changeups, 1 curveball).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you can consider this &#8220;working&#8221; on his pitches.  Gah.  Felix and Morrow seem to be suffering from the whole &#8220;radar gun&#8221; syndrome &#8211; wanting to throw nothing but gas.</p>
<p>To Felix and Morrow &#8211; your job is to get outs without giving up runs and to go deep into games &#8211; <strong>NOT</strong> to strike out batters.  Accumulating K&#8217;s is a side-effect of achieving that objective.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s your memo guys&#8230; now let&#8217;s get that light bulb burning and get with the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The problem with last night was “a lack of rally?” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

missed the interview, so I may not have the right context, but perhaps they intended to say &quot;a lack of rally &lt;em&gt;fries&lt;/em&gt;&quot;...




... as you were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The problem with last night was “a lack of rally?” </p></blockquote>
<p>missed the interview, so I may not have the right context, but perhaps they intended to say &#8220;a lack of rally <em>fries</em>&#8220;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; as you were.</p>
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		<title>By: azfred</title>
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		<dc:creator>azfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The diabetes arguement is bunk.  I didn&#039;t hear the new interview - did he use that argument again?  Having a very close family member with type 1 diabetes (that&#039;s the commonly known &quot;childhood&quot; diabetes that Morrow has), I know that the disease is very manageable and someone with his resources shouldn&#039;t have any problem managing it and still performing at the highest level as a starting pitcher.  If anything, being a reliever has the potential of being more difficult with the disease.  If he&#039;s using that as an excuse then he needs to consult a new doctor and a certified diabetes educator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The diabetes arguement is bunk.  I didn&#8217;t hear the new interview &#8211; did he use that argument again?  Having a very close family member with type 1 diabetes (that&#8217;s the commonly known &#8220;childhood&#8221; diabetes that Morrow has), I know that the disease is very manageable and someone with his resources shouldn&#8217;t have any problem managing it and still performing at the highest level as a starting pitcher.  If anything, being a reliever has the potential of being more difficult with the disease.  If he&#8217;s using that as an excuse then he needs to consult a new doctor and a certified diabetes educator.</p>
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		<title>By: Bodhizefa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bodhizefa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t think he knows what the hell he really wants.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, that was my general impression during the Spring when it was announced that he was going to the pen at his request.  I would guess that he&#039;s like most 20-somethings and has no general clue what he really wants out of what he&#039;s doing with his life.  Whatever the case, though, I think the club&#039;s usage of him the other night was excellent.  Give him multiple innings in lower level stress situations to try and work on all his pitches.  And if that doesn&#039;t work, send him to the minors to work on it.  He needs innings at this point, and I hope that the organization isn&#039;t afraid to find a way to give them to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t think he knows what the hell he really wants.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, that was my general impression during the Spring when it was announced that he was going to the pen at his request.  I would guess that he&#8217;s like most 20-somethings and has no general clue what he really wants out of what he&#8217;s doing with his life.  Whatever the case, though, I think the club&#8217;s usage of him the other night was excellent.  Give him multiple innings in lower level stress situations to try and work on all his pitches.  And if that doesn&#8217;t work, send him to the minors to work on it.  He needs innings at this point, and I hope that the organization isn&#8217;t afraid to find a way to give them to him.</p>
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		<title>By: JMHawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMHawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 21:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought the Morrow interview was interesting. He basically said he wanted to go to the ‘pen because he wanted to assure himself a spot on the big club rather than go down to Tacoma to continue working on things.

I don’t think he knows what the hell he really wants.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who the hell is his agent?  Did anyone &#039;splain to him that mediocre relievers are worth about bupkis on the FA market, while even mediocre starters can expect to cash in to the tune of $5+ M a year after their indentured servitude?   

I understand the diabetes complicates matters.  Maybe he&#039;d only make one start a week, but if he started say 25 games and averaged 6 IP per, that&#039;s 150 IP for the year, nearly twice what he&#039;s going to get as a reliever.  150 Innings of ~4.00 FIP sounds good to me.  And if it turned out he couldn&#039;t keep up the starting role, at least he&#039;d have a secondary pitch to use from teh bullpen.   The current plan really just doesn&#039;t have any way of working - they&#039;ve got to try something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I thought the Morrow interview was interesting. He basically said he wanted to go to the ‘pen because he wanted to assure himself a spot on the big club rather than go down to Tacoma to continue working on things.</p>
<p>I don’t think he knows what the hell he really wants.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who the hell is his agent?  Did anyone &#8217;splain to him that mediocre relievers are worth about bupkis on the FA market, while even mediocre starters can expect to cash in to the tune of $5+ M a year after their indentured servitude?   </p>
<p>I understand the diabetes complicates matters.  Maybe he&#8217;d only make one start a week, but if he started say 25 games and averaged 6 IP per, that&#8217;s 150 IP for the year, nearly twice what he&#8217;s going to get as a reliever.  150 Innings of ~4.00 FIP sounds good to me.  And if it turned out he couldn&#8217;t keep up the starting role, at least he&#8217;d have a secondary pitch to use from teh bullpen.   The current plan really just doesn&#8217;t have any way of working &#8211; they&#8217;ve got to try something else.</p>
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