Game 78, Mariners at Yankees

Mike Snow · July 2, 2009 at 4:06 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

The debut of Langerhans! Vargas v. Sabathia, 4:05.

RF-L Ichiro
1B-L Branyan
2B-R Lopez
DH-R Sweeney
CF-R Gutierrez
C-R Johjima
LF-L Guy who was once traded for Snelling
3B-R Woodward
SS-R Cedeno

As slightly weird as it is to break Langerhans in against the lefthander, two things. His statistics don’t seem to indicate much of a platoon split (even doing a bit better against lefties in the majors, slightly worse in the minors, for what those sample sizes are worth). And in terms of lineup construction, it’s still nice to break up that string of righthanded bats that mostly share similar weaknesses and are easily neutralized by a properly deployed bullpen.

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107 Responses to “Game 78, Mariners at Yankees”

  1. Lucky Number on July 2nd, 2009 4:20 pm

    So… rain delay huh? Awesome.

  2. Red Apple on July 2nd, 2009 4:22 pm

    LF: Serious Injury to Flying Things
    CF: Death to Flying Things!
    RF: Serious Injury to Flying and Death to Running Things

    Try to keep the ball down, though, Jason.

  3. Red Apple on July 2nd, 2009 4:23 pm

    NYC in early July ‘09: Death to Scheduled Things.

  4. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 4:24 pm

    Has there been an “estimated start time” announced?

  5. srp on July 2nd, 2009 4:25 pm

    According to Baker, Vargas is sick and was puking earlier. With that and the rain delay, I wonder if they’ll still start him.

  6. Nik Aitken on July 2nd, 2009 4:25 pm

    How you could spend 1.5 billion on a stadium and not add a retractable roof is beyond me

  7. jordan on July 2nd, 2009 4:27 pm

    4:40 start time.

    Krugar just called him Langerhouse. Wow.

  8. trtlrock on July 2nd, 2009 4:34 pm

    Lopez & Sweeney 3-4? Wow, flashback to Turbo & Sexson. The continued use of Sweeney doesn’t reflect well on Z & Wak — there must be 50 guys in AAA or the Mex Lg who are readily available, would out-perform Sweeney now, and might even stick around for a few years as decent bench material.

    I’m surprised Z & Wak have gotten a relative ‘pass’ on keeping Sweeney on the roster. Time for USSM to put their feet in the fire on this one…

  9. cgmonk on July 2nd, 2009 4:41 pm

    @trtlrock

    I will say that it’s a little strange that Sweeney played last night, against an RHP, but is sitting tonight against an LHP. Wak put Junior in left field last night in order to get Sweeney’s bat in the line-up, so there has to be something there offensively that he likes, but why would he like it against an RHP and not against an LHP? You got me. Oh well. I still like Wak, and I think he’s doing a terrific job overall. He’s just made some strange line-up decisions lately.

    Sweeney, DH (BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!)

    Sweeney, for all his good character and supposed clubhouse-osity, has done very little for the team so far this year on the field, and seems the obvious positional drop if they’re making moves.

    Sweeney at DH! Yessss! Batting 4th! Yessss!

    Also, Mike Sweeney should get a stint on the disabled list to allow the team to give Chris Shelton a look in the majors.

  10. Dave on July 2nd, 2009 4:42 pm

    Sweeney has been worth -.2 wins so far this year. He’s the right-handed portion of a DH platoon. The roster spot just isn’t that big of a deal. Chris Shelton could outhit him to the tune of a couple of runs per year in this role, but there’s no reason to get worked up over such a small difference.

    Wak’s doing a great job. That your biggest complaint is that our RH platoon DH isn’t awesome is a huge step forward.

  11. trtlrock on July 2nd, 2009 4:44 pm

    Drat — where’s that edit button gone?

    Obvious hyperbole.

    Make that “25 guys in MLB, AAA or the Mex Lg”

  12. Mike Snow on July 2nd, 2009 4:46 pm

    He’s the right-handed portion of a DH platoon. The roster spot just isn’t that big of a deal.

    Exactly, it’s easily filled by trading away a slick-fielding, switch-hitting young shortstop. Or not.

  13. msb on July 2nd, 2009 4:53 pm

    I love it when the broadcast crew has been given a new talking point– walking from the back room as Rizzs says “…from the same town as Felix Hernandez” to the front as Dave say “…from the same town as Felix Hernandez”

  14. AssumedName on July 2nd, 2009 4:55 pm

    Ichiro’s been just abusing Posada. Or are his pitchers letting him down?

  15. jordan on July 2nd, 2009 4:57 pm

    Is it bad that I can perfectly picture Felix wearing pinstripes?

  16. Utis on July 2nd, 2009 4:59 pm

    Ichiro double to 2B? How does that happen?

  17. AssumedName on July 2nd, 2009 5:01 pm

    Woo, three grounders! Keep it up JV!

  18. djw on July 2nd, 2009 5:03 pm

    AssumedName,

    Jorge Posada is not playing in this game.

  19. Paul B on July 2nd, 2009 5:04 pm

    Ichirun for the M’s in the first.

    It was off a glove and dribbled out into the outfield. It was more to RF than 2B, though.

  20. AssumedName on July 2nd, 2009 5:04 pm

    Jorge Posada is not playing in this game.

    Well, seems I assumed too much. Guess I could’ve scanned the lineup first. Gotta get home and watch the telly.

  21. diderot on July 2nd, 2009 5:07 pm

    Birth to flying things.

  22. Paul B on July 2nd, 2009 5:07 pm

    This week we have seen Wakamatsu eschew the platoon advantage several times. I get the impression he thinks that small sample size success against a pitcher beats the platoon advantage.

    Seems to be working for him pretty well.

  23. JMHawkins on July 2nd, 2009 5:09 pm

    Hey, this Langin…, Lagner…, Loggermans… this new left fielder makes a good first impression. Might need to learn how to spell his name.

    Langerhans.

  24. JMHawkins on July 2nd, 2009 5:14 pm

    Ooops, I guess he’s back to “guy once traded for Doyle”

  25. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 5:15 pm

    Is that scored a caught stealing? Or a steal and a caught stealing since he came off the bag?

  26. UW10 on July 2nd, 2009 5:15 pm

    Cedeno is one of the worst hitters I’ve ever seen. And how does langerhans over-slide the base? come on guys….

  27. cgmonk on July 2nd, 2009 5:15 pm

    Would it be possible for a player sliding to ask for time right as he touched the bag, so he couldn’t be called out as he slid off of it?

  28. HamNasty on July 2nd, 2009 5:16 pm

    Is that ruled a SB then pickoff? Or just caught stealing? Thanks in advance.

    Also Langerhans is my new man crush. Just got to let him know the bases are only 90 feet not 95 feet when he is stealing.

  29. Coolalvin206 on July 2nd, 2009 5:22 pm

    You can’t make bonehead moves like that overslide against good teams and expect to win. Case in point, last night with Franklin thinking it was ball 4 and getting nailed at second.

    I have no doubt we are getting swept. You can just feel it in the air.. even with an early lead.

  30. Red Apple on July 2nd, 2009 5:25 pm

    I have no doubt we are getting swept. You can just feel it in the air.. even with an early lead.

    Glad you’re enjoying yourself!

  31. JerBear on July 2nd, 2009 5:25 pm

    Dammit – what the heck is wrong with Ichiro lately?

  32. The Nickster on July 2nd, 2009 5:26 pm

    Ichiro, my grandma could have caught that.

  33. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 5:26 pm

    Yikes.. two dropped fly balls by Ichiro in the last week.

  34. Willmore2000 on July 2nd, 2009 5:26 pm

    that’s it, Ichiro is a hack.
    Trade him NOW.

    :-)

  35. UW10 on July 2nd, 2009 5:28 pm

    Maybe we can get Greg Dobbs back in return!

  36. PeterCampbell on July 2nd, 2009 5:34 pm

    JerBear – or, “wow – what is with Ichiro lately – making all those runs by himself!”

    If there could ever be a world in which anyone would deserve to make some errors or have some hitless games, it would be Ichiro with the Seattle Mariners.

  37. The Nickster on July 2nd, 2009 5:34 pm

    I just voted for all Mariners and all Dodgers for the ASG. Is that wrong? Should I do it 24 more times?

    (Note: My dad turned me on to the Dodgers in 1976 when I was 7 (he grew up in LA). Gotta love the Garvey, Lopes, Russell, Cey infield!)

  38. georgmi on July 2nd, 2009 5:35 pm

    Maybe we can get Greg Dobbs back in return!

    You ow m a nw kyboard.

  39. TJ Dirk on July 2nd, 2009 5:36 pm

    This strike zone is stupid….

  40. JerBear on July 2nd, 2009 5:37 pm

    If there could ever be a world in which anyone would deserve to make some errors or have some hitless games, it would be Ichiro with the Seattle Mariners.

    Oh I totally concur – and the first inning was pretty much classic Ichiro getting things done by himself.

    He’s just had a string of 3 or so glaring errors that are very uncharacteristic. It’s just weird.

  41. TJ Dirk on July 2nd, 2009 5:37 pm

    Strikes are balls, balls are strikes, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria!

  42. kenshabby on July 2nd, 2009 5:50 pm

    I’m convinced some sinister force has placed a ju-on (curse) on Ichiro’s mitt. Where did he find it, in some haunted house in Japan?

  43. scottiedawg on July 2nd, 2009 5:55 pm

    Gutierrez is playing some awesome baseball right now. The list of players that he has a higher WAR (he’s 39th among hitters) than are impressive, including Jason Bay (wow, defense really really matters!).

  44. HeyItsTodd on July 2nd, 2009 5:58 pm

    KenShabby, I think this is the first year since Ichiro’s personal glovemaster retired. The new one could be a plant. Or, I’ve been reading too many spy novels again.

    As for Ichiro, I think he cemented his HOF spot tonight when he punked the rightfield fans.

  45. G-Man on July 2nd, 2009 5:59 pm

    Woof! Woodward with the ribbie!

  46. djw on July 2nd, 2009 5:59 pm

    Langerhans has a really nice looking swing.

  47. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 5:59 pm

    Keep scoring those runs boys!

  48. JerBear on July 2nd, 2009 6:02 pm

    As for Ichiro, I think he cemented his HOF spot tonight when he punked the rightfield fans.

    That was totally awesome. I thought it looked weird at the time, and then I caught the replay… Hi-larious.

  49. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 6:03 pm

    Ichiro! Wow that one just kept going and going.

  50. djw on July 2nd, 2009 6:04 pm

    Gutierrez could have caught it.

  51. Willmore2000 on July 2nd, 2009 6:05 pm

    You know, if Ichiro had hustled, that probably could’ve been a triple. But, I’m guessing he assumed that even the rotund Yankee center fielder could jog to that ball.

  52. Sports on a Schtick on July 2nd, 2009 6:11 pm

    Branyan has struck out in his last seven at-bats. Ultra Sombrero?

  53. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 6:12 pm

    Matsui barely touched that one. New Yankee Stadium is ridiculous.

  54. Faceplant on July 2nd, 2009 6:14 pm

    Branyan has struck out in his last seven at-bats. Ultra Sombrero?

    The platinum mitre.

  55. Willmore2000 on July 2nd, 2009 6:29 pm

    What was the name of the 3rd-baseman from “Major League”? Teixeira reminded me of him on that play.

  56. jld on July 2nd, 2009 6:30 pm

    I was going to post this after Langerhans lined out hard last time up, but small sample size yada, yada yada.

    Anyways, here it is now. I’m impressed by what we’ve seen so far. I he’s going to hit the ball that hard frequently, then I’m going to be quite excited about this guy.

  57. UW10 on July 2nd, 2009 6:31 pm

    damn woodward

  58. UW10 on July 2nd, 2009 6:32 pm

    and cedeno… this is terrible

  59. UW10 on July 2nd, 2009 6:52 pm

    batista is actually pitching decent…. quick, trade him!

  60. hark on July 2nd, 2009 6:54 pm

    What was the name of the 3rd-baseman from “Major League”? Teixeira reminded me of him on that play.

    The veteran who tanked plays to spite Rick Vaughn? Roger Dorn.

  61. msb on July 2nd, 2009 7:01 pm

    Ow. that was the metal-plate hand

  62. Jay R. on July 2nd, 2009 7:03 pm

    Might be time to switch up the signs.

  63. psquared on July 2nd, 2009 7:13 pm

    If you’re talking about Joh, I think it was a balk. Go back and look at previous pitches. On the one where Joh took off, the pitcher set, then moved his hands down. That seond movement was not in any of his previous windups. I’m sure Joh was going on first movement and that’s why he got caught.

  64. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 7:14 pm

    I pray Sean White is not being considered for the 8th inning.

  65. UW10 on July 2nd, 2009 7:18 pm

    Why is woodward not hustling? He’s lucky to be playing and he’s not running hard….

  66. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 7:19 pm

    Also, we might escape this game with a win, but it won’t be because of the baserunning.

  67. msb on July 2nd, 2009 7:20 pm

    aaand, apparently he was safe. Kulpa not having a good series here, if you are a Mariner.

  68. Breadbaker on July 2nd, 2009 7:21 pm

    The ump was right there, but he did look safe on the replay.

  69. UW10 on July 2nd, 2009 7:23 pm

    It shouldn’t have been close though.. He should have hustled the whole way

  70. Breadbaker on July 2nd, 2009 7:24 pm

    Lowe’s muttonchops would look great in one of those Pirates caps from the late 70’s.

  71. Breadbaker on July 2nd, 2009 7:27 pm

    I’d like to put the screenshot of A-Rod’s alleged home run up somewhere.

  72. Mr. Egaas on July 2nd, 2009 7:28 pm

    Blow and Simms talkin’ about Dave’s article on Zumaya on Fangraphs.

  73. cgmonk on July 2nd, 2009 7:28 pm

    Blowers brought up Lowe’s fastball velocity that he got from someone in the booth, then Dave Sims mentioned fangraphs.com

  74. Jay R. on July 2nd, 2009 7:29 pm

    Da Muscle.

  75. Rick L on July 2nd, 2009 7:30 pm

    There goes Aardsma’s save opportunity.

  76. juneau_fan on July 2nd, 2009 7:31 pm

    That must have felt good for Russell. And it was a nice compliment to A-Rod pulling up at first base when his fly ball was caught.

  77. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 7:31 pm

    Nice way to break out of a slump for Branyan. Now do the smart thing and save Aardsma before nobody is available tomorrow (even if it is Felix pitching).

  78. Breadbaker on July 2nd, 2009 7:33 pm

    Aardsma hasn’t pitched since Sunday. He could use the work.

  79. UW10 on July 2nd, 2009 7:35 pm

    and sweeney is 0-5

  80. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 7:37 pm

    Aardsma hasn’t pitched since Sunday. He could use the work.

    I disagree, only because we have 3 with Boston. You know you’re going to need the bullpen (just like you will with New York) since they take so many pitches. Lowe and Batista are going to be unavailable tomorrow. Give the pitches in the 9th to White or Jak or something (with Aardsma on emergency standby) and save the good pitchers for when you might need it more this weekend.

  81. Breadbaker on July 2nd, 2009 7:38 pm

    Well, clearly Wak disagrees with you.

  82. Rick L on July 2nd, 2009 7:39 pm

    I love the Jack in the Box targeted marketing. They know who goes through the drive in at 3 a.m. But why do they think they watch the Mariners on FSN? Must be some kind of market research to back that up.

  83. Scottdids on July 2nd, 2009 7:39 pm

    That said, Wakamatsu has overruled me..

  84. Rick L on July 2nd, 2009 7:42 pm

    Cedeno should have had that.

  85. UW10 on July 2nd, 2009 7:44 pm

    come on aardsma….

  86. Rick L on July 2nd, 2009 7:46 pm

    Roy Corcoran is the only other pitcher likely to be available, unless you count Josh Wilson.

  87. Paul B on July 2nd, 2009 7:46 pm

    Nah, Jack in the Box just creates a few commercials then finds someplace that will play them for cheap (hello, Mariners), forks over a pile of money and says “keep playing these over and over and let us know when the money runs out”.

  88. Paul B on July 2nd, 2009 7:48 pm

    Matsui jerks his shoulder as he stands at the plate waiting for the pitch. It always looks strange to me.

  89. juneau_fan on July 2nd, 2009 7:48 pm

    Always the tightrope, always the tightrope.

    Blowers: He doesn’t have an out yet.

    Thanks, I hadn’t noticed.

  90. Rick L on July 2nd, 2009 7:50 pm

    The fact that the Yanks are down 4 seems not to have deterred the optimism of the Yankee crowd. In Seattle, there would be a bunch of people leaving or sitting on their hands. Except for the Yankee fans who make up a significant percentage of the paid attendance.

  91. Paul B on July 2nd, 2009 7:50 pm

    That first pitch to Cabrera was a bad call.

  92. Paul B on July 2nd, 2009 7:53 pm

    Boy, that last strike to end the game, the ump sort of looked like he didn’t want to call it a strike.

  93. Sports on a Schtick on July 2nd, 2009 7:54 pm

    Aarsdma whew!!

    Off to Boston, where our playoff chances and the nation’s independence are on the line.

  94. Jay R. on July 2nd, 2009 7:54 pm

    Good win. Big win.

  95. juneau_fan on July 2nd, 2009 8:04 pm

    All they have to do is win one of those games to come home with their dignity.

  96. Breadbaker on July 2nd, 2009 8:08 pm

    You don’t leave Yankee Stadium early. You wait for the crowd. It’s not a neighborhood you wander around in alone.

  97. TomTuttle on July 2nd, 2009 9:07 pm

    Let’s Go O’s!

    Help us out and make a comeback!

  98. BigB on July 2nd, 2009 9:30 pm

    I was at the game tonight. Got a ton of peanuts thrown at me after Branyan went deep and I stood up to yell, “Russell Branyan? More like Muscle Branyan!”

  99. TomTuttle on July 2nd, 2009 9:33 pm

    I was at the game tonight. Got a ton of peanuts thrown at me after Branyan went deep and I stood up to yell, “Russell Branyan? More like Muscle Branyan!”

    Hahaha, well done.

  100. BigB on July 2nd, 2009 9:35 pm

    There was a decent crop of Seattle fans there tonight. More than on Tuesday. Also, a surprising amount of born-and-raised New Yorkers who are Mariners fans. Hopped on board during Griffey’s first tour of duty.

  101. TomTuttle on July 2nd, 2009 9:37 pm

    There was a decent crop of Seattle fans there tonight. More than on Tuesday. Also, a surprising amount of born-and-raised New Yorkers who are Mariners fans. Hopped on board during Griffey’s first tour of duty.

    Hahaha, hope ArmLinc don’t get cocky since Mariners Nation isn’t THAT big.

  102. JesseNYC on July 2nd, 2009 9:51 pm

    I was there too. My first trip to the new Yankee Stadium, which feels weirdly… normal. And dull. But a fun game to see on my first visit. That Branyan home run was as no-doubt-about-it as any I’ve seen. Also: Langerhans really smoked the ball in each of his first three at-bats, and Gutierrez is awesome. (Ichiro too, but that’s stating the obvious.) I saw a fair number of Seattle fans too — in particular a lot of couples where the girl was wearing a Yankees jersey and the dude was wearing a Mariners jersey. Strange.

  103. Shoeless Jose on July 2nd, 2009 10:17 pm

    You can’t make bonehead moves like that overslide against good teams and expect to win. Case in point, last night with Franklin thinking it was ball 4 and getting nailed at second.

    I have no doubt we are getting swept. You can just feel it in the air.. even with an early lead.

    How’s that crow taste?

    I don’t know what you were “feeling” but you might want to see a doctor about it.

  104. profmac on July 2nd, 2009 10:18 pm

    Ken Rosenthal put out his All Star picks.

    Branyan, Ichiro, Felix, Aardsma, and Washburn

    Pretty decent rake, I’d say. :)

  105. refusetolose on July 2nd, 2009 11:21 pm

    I was at this game as well, what a great win for the Ms. Branyan, finally not striking out. And I too, got peanuts thrown at me.

    Continue to be impressed with Franklin in the OF.

  106. Kazinski on July 2nd, 2009 11:39 pm

    Baker says that Langerhans earned the start by not getting picked off first base last night. Langerhans didn’t play last night you say? No, but Balentien did, and I guess Wak saw enough for at least a few days.

  107. gregry17 on July 3rd, 2009 8:36 am

    Play Langerhans again
    and again
    and again

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