Comments on: Sell High On Mark Lowe? http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: jbetzsold http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-336584 jbetzsold Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:34:29 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8610#comment-336584 Lowe for Pujols. Anyone, anyone. Bueller, Frye... Lowe for Pujols. Anyone, anyone. Bueller, Frye…

]]> By: rick m http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-336579 rick m Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:39:24 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8610#comment-336579 It may be time to visit the Cleveland Indians again. They have interesting infield surplus, including a need to move Peralta, and they need relief. It may be time to visit the Cleveland Indians again. They have interesting infield surplus, including a need to move Peralta, and they need relief.

]]> By: Mr. Egaas http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-336547 Mr. Egaas Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:32:06 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8610#comment-336547 <blockquote>Maybe the M’s can build their team this way… get a ton of very cheap relievers with upside, and find the one the succeeds, and make him the closer (Just like Aardsma). Then trade them for a package like Putz! One can wish.</blockquote> Dude named Billy Beane has been doing this for years.

Maybe the M’s can build their team this way… get a ton of very cheap relievers with upside, and find the one the succeeds, and make him the closer (Just like Aardsma). Then trade them for a package like Putz!

One can wish.

Dude named Billy Beane has been doing this for years.

]]> By: rjfrik http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-336520 rjfrik Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:17:55 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8610#comment-336520 Dave, What is your take on Jones vs Franky. I've been arguing with other fans that I think Franky is better, that to go along with his crazy defense his bat hits enough to push him just ahead of Jones. Maybe I'm wrong but I do think Ms fans tend to evaluate Jones through emerald-colored glasses, and are personally invested in his value to justify the horrible Bedard trade. Just curious. thanks Dave,

What is your take on Jones vs Franky. I’ve been arguing with other fans that I think Franky is better, that to go along with his crazy defense his bat hits enough to push him just ahead of Jones. Maybe I’m wrong but I do think Ms fans tend to evaluate Jones through emerald-colored glasses, and are personally invested in his value to justify the horrible Bedard trade.

Just curious. thanks

]]> By: Breadbaker http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-336461 Breadbaker Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:09:41 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8610#comment-336461 Jordan, your idea is not a new one, just packaged a little more strenuously. Like any strategy, it needs an implied, "in the current marketplace" qualification. In the current marketplace, as Dave often points out, certain relievers are overvalued and others can be had for a song, with the distinction between the projected performance of the two groups insufficient to justify the difference in salary. So long as that is true, the strategy of buying low and selling high with bullpen assets makes sense. Jordan, your idea is not a new one, just packaged a little more strenuously. Like any strategy, it needs an implied, “in the current marketplace” qualification. In the current marketplace, as Dave often points out, certain relievers are overvalued and others can be had for a song, with the distinction between the projected performance of the two groups insufficient to justify the difference in salary. So long as that is true, the strategy of buying low and selling high with bullpen assets makes sense.

]]> By: jordan http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-336460 jordan Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:34:05 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8610#comment-336460 Maybe the M's can build their team this way... get a ton of very cheap relievers with upside, and find the one the succeeds, and make him the closer (Just like Aardsma). Then trade them for a package like Putz! One can wish. Maybe the M’s can build their team this way… get a ton of very cheap relievers with upside, and find the one the succeeds, and make him the closer (Just like Aardsma). Then trade them for a package like Putz!

One can wish.

]]> By: robbbbbb http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-336459 robbbbbb Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:29:58 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8610#comment-336459 I don't think we're going to get anything really interesting for just Lowe, but he could definitely be a useful part of a trade with other players to net an interesting player or two back. Just like Jeremy Reed had little value on his own, but was a useful part of a deal to get good players back. I don’t think we’re going to get anything really interesting for just Lowe, but he could definitely be a useful part of a trade with other players to net an interesting player or two back.

Just like Jeremy Reed had little value on his own, but was a useful part of a deal to get good players back.

]]> By: Slurve http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-336458 Slurve Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:23:16 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8610#comment-336458 While his K/9IP has fallen close to around 7 his BB/9IP was sub 4BB/9IP before I wrote this. The difference between him and Putz is you risk him actually going out and dominating hitters since he has the FB/SL/CU combo and that screams relief ace of sort VS. Putz you just had a feeling he was done the splitter was gone his FB velo was gone. Also how about trading Aardsma as well then? He'll also get hit hard down the stretch and that ERA/FIP will take a hit once the long balls start coming in (2.5% HR/FB ratio sustainable? I kinda wish) And after all Aardsma is <strong>a proven veteran closer</strong>. That's bound to get more than a fireballing set-up guy right? You can go either way with this both have light's out potential and it's a matter who you believe in more. While his K/9IP has fallen close to around 7 his BB/9IP was sub 4BB/9IP before I wrote this. The difference between him and Putz is you risk him actually going out and dominating hitters since he has the FB/SL/CU combo and that screams relief ace of sort VS. Putz you just had a feeling he was done the splitter was gone his FB velo was gone. Also how about trading Aardsma as well then? He’ll also get hit hard down the stretch and that ERA/FIP will take a hit once the long balls start coming in (2.5% HR/FB ratio sustainable? I kinda wish) And after all Aardsma is a proven veteran closer. That’s bound to get more than a fireballing set-up guy right? You can go either way with this both have light’s out potential and it’s a matter who you believe in more.

]]> By: Dave http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-336457 Dave Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:10:32 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8610#comment-336457 Lowe > White. You're not going to get anything for a guy with a 1:1 BB/K rate and no out pitch though. White's just a guy. Lowe, you could probably flip for something interesting. Lowe > White. You’re not going to get anything for a guy with a 1:1 BB/K rate and no out pitch though. White’s just a guy. Lowe, you could probably flip for something interesting.

]]> By: TomTuttle http://ussmariner.com/2009/07/02/sell-high-on-mark-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-336456 TomTuttle Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:02:19 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8610#comment-336456 So I take it we've concluded there's a noticeable difference between Mark Lowe and Sean White then? So I take it we’ve concluded there’s a noticeable difference between Mark Lowe and Sean White then?

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