M’s Add Bill Hall

Dave · August 19, 2009 at 3:25 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

The M’s have added another former Brewer, going back to the old stomping grounds to get Bill Hall from Milwaukee. The Brewers DFA’d him last week, and the M’s are shipping minor league reliever Ruben Flores to the Brewers in exchange for Hall. The Brewers are picking up practically all of the remaining ~$10 million on his contract for this year and 2010.

Hall’s numbers aren’t good – .201/.265/.341 this year after a .225/.293/.396 season last year was enough for the Brewers to throw in the towel. He’s right-handed, he strikes out a lot, and when the line drives aren’t falling for hits, he doesn’t have much offensive value. However, he still plays a pretty mean third base, and I have a feeling the M’s will give him a look back at his old position of shortstop to see if he can handle a utility infielder role with the club next year.

If the M’s can get him straightened out, he could be a nice piece. He’s a talented player – extremely athletic, can play a bunch of positions, hits the ball hard when he makes contact, but his contact problems and general struggles against right-handed pitchers have sunk what looked to be a promising career a couple of years ago.

For the rest of this year, he’ll likely platoon with Hannahan at third while they take a look at him as a utility guy. For next year, his presence on the roster probably means that they’re not bringing Beltre back. They could get by at 3B with a Hannahan/Hall platoon, which saves them enough money to go upgrade another position. There’s some upside to a low cost productive platoon from a couple of good glove guys who have some offensive upside, but it’s also a bit sad that this probably closes the door on Beltre returning to the M’s.

Flores isn’t someone you should worry about giving up, and with the Brewers picking up the salary, it’s a nice buy low move for the M’s. However, if it really does signify that Beltre will be elsewhere next year (like I think it does), then the M’s will have to show that they can spend that money on an upgrade somewhere else (2B? DH? SP?) just as well. In Jack We Trust… but I’ll miss Adrian.

Comments

55 Responses to “M’s Add Bill Hall”

  1. Dave on August 20th, 2009 2:16 pm

    And we have a winner in the “dumbest thing posted on the site today” contest.

  2. Bandit24 on August 20th, 2009 4:42 pm

    I love this move! Getting upside like Bill Hall has for basically nothing. How can anyone not like this move? Are you for real Curveballlee? This is the same type of move as the Branyan one you like………

  3. joser on August 20th, 2009 4:54 pm

    Wait, so the M’s fortunes over the past five years were all due to Beltre? Here I thought it was Bavasi giving out ridiculous contracts and trading too much for too little, and Hargrove deciding to stick to “roles” when bringing in flammable relievers and writing useless veterans into the lineup. But it was all Beltre all this time? My god, man, you’ve cracked the case!

  4. joser on August 20th, 2009 5:14 pm

    Count me among those who don’t see this as the M’s closing the door on Beltre, but it certainly gives them another direction if Beltre chooses to go elsewhere (as I think is more likely than not). That’s smart.

    Especially when his agent is Scott Boras. You’re always strongest in a negotiation when you have a perfectly viable “Plan B” so you’re in a position to walk away with no regret… and make sure the other side knows it.

    I really doubt that prior to this year, you’d have pointed at Guti as the fifth or sixth best CF in MLB,

    And he’s arguably better than that: by Fangraph’s calculations Gutierrez is the 3rd most valuable CF in baseball. (And the 9th most valuable outfielder and the 24th most valuable position player, right on par with MVP Pedroia and multi-million-dollar Teixeira)

  5. NBarnes on August 20th, 2009 9:15 pm

    And he’s arguably better than that: by Fangraph’s calculations Gutierrez is the 3rd most valuable CF in baseball. (And the 9th most valuable outfielder and the 24th most valuable position player, right on par with MVP Pedroia and multi-million-dollar Teixeira)

    Well, I was pulling numbers out of my ass for the sake of the argument, so I was a little conservative. I think we can agree on the bottom line: Guti is really good.

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