Brock and Salk Day Reminder
Dave · July 8, 2010 at 10:04 am · Filed Under Mariners
Usual radio spot with the boys at Brock and Salk at 12:30 today.
Also, my new post at their blog is now up.
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Brock: “If He’s so good, why would Texas give him up”
And then Salk has to explain it to him like he’s 8
I lol’d.
Seriously though, lets go Smoak!
Bullet points
* Dave likes a Smoak package more than any other likely offer. “He’s exactly what the organization needs. A perfect fit.”
* Brandon League and his dumb love for fastballs. Bullpen is f’ed. Teixeria should still be a M.
* Vlad Guerrero (instead of Bradley) would’ve probably added three wins to this team, which isn’t nearly enough to compensate for all that’s wrong with the team.
* M’s had a lot of bad luck in the first half. Figgins will be fine, should be moved back to third.
Dave, once they go to the 9am slot, are you going to be getting up at the crack of dawn to be on with them?
9AM PST is 12PM EST.
LOL
Absolutely! Lee for Smoak straight up would be a good deal IMO. If the M’s can get anything else along with it (while potentially shedding some trash we no longer need) … that would be gravy.
Cliff has been awesome! He never wanted to be traded here, but he made the most of it and then some. He doesn’t want to re-sign here … and “okay, I get that” – so it’s time to move on. To each his own.
Getting a player of Smoak’s caliber who made it to the bigs in just over 2 years of professional ball – who switch hits with power – with a controlled contract for 5 more seasons – and filling one of the mid-order batting slots … this is a no brainer. Even straight up for Lee – he is a great deal.
We don’t need Lee in order to lock up and seal a 4th place finish in the West.
After dave brock and salk talked with cliff lee, and I don’t know if this is new news, but lee says he and his agent sat down with the M’s before the season to discuss an extension and it got decided to put it off until after the season. I’d like to know if anyone has details, as to numbers traded or what happened at this meeting. Cause signing Lee to an extension wouldve been a really great thing.
Not necessarily. The success rate of long term deals for starting pitchers is horrible. Horrible. Given the M’s payroll and committed money, they can’t afford to give Lee $20+ million a year for six or seven years and hope he’s the exception that stays healthy and pitches well.
Renting Lee for one season was probably their best bet.
Details: No
Actual, relevant insight: No
Any friend of a friend who knows a guy info: No
Rumors floating throughout the cosmos: Yes
For what it’s worth, the numbers I heard being bandied about were 5 years – $20M per … as an initial asking price.
In other words, too much money. He isn’t worth that price at his age and he won’t fit within the M’s budget unless they can field a team that is mostly filled with minimum’ish slaried players – who can actually play.
The M’s have a hard enough time filling their roster with expensive everyday players who can’t (or haven’t shown they can) play to expected levels.
They can’t afford to spend $20M/yr on Cliff Lee.
Unless, of course … Nintendo decided to change their self-imposed budget; although I am not suggesting a useless, time consuming dialogue along those lines.
I doubt that Cliff Lee will get the rumored $20M/yr – by the time he signs with a team (unless it is Yankee Monopoly monies) … but he will likely land somewhere in the “comfortable enough to feed my family” range of $15-18M/yr.
I wouldn’t have given him that…but I certainly would have continued to talk about it as the season progressed. If that was a starting point from Lee’s perspective, then it says to me that numbers would probably have gone down after negotiations….
I agree with your perspective, but please keep in mind, the numbers I repeated as having been “bandied about” came straight out of the cosmos (i.e. a place close to, but not quite directly – out of my own ass).
If Lee and the M’s were ever “close” – then they can get “close” again with their negotiations … after we first scoop up a few very necessary resources by trading him away.
Lee made a couple nice statements this season about how some baseballs hit at Safeco (for long outs) would have been homeruns in other parks. He gets it, but he is an east coast guy … and will likely end up in that neck of the woods. I actually think he is from Arkansas, but I have heard that he and his family are “east coasters.”
Dave,
It was brought up in your post, but I was wondering the same thing especially in respect to the people we traded away. I sent a letter to all the media people after being ticked off. The full version is here, but an excerpt is below (FYI, the e-mail was sent on June 15th):
Is it the coaches that is the issue here?
A deal with Texas makes sense for Lee himself. Once the ownership situation shakes out down there, I’m sure the Rangers would be a top choice for him given that he likes living in Arkansas. If he propels them to a major postseason, I’m guessing he would take less than a Yankee offer to sign with Texas.
As an added bonus, he would still get to pitch in Safeco several times a year. Arrgh.
You know, firova2, I had this nice little buzz going on- fixed some household issues, sun shining, birds birdsing…and ya had to go and kill it with that entirely plausible scenario! LOL.
Heading to Safeco. Hopefully, Vargas has his “losing streak stopper” gear on.