Halladay Talk With Brock And Salk
Dave · October 7, 2010 at 10:01 am · Filed Under Mariners
My latest post for Brock and Salk is up, and after last night, is there anything I could write about besides Roy Halladay. The game’s best pitcher put on a performance that ranks as the best I’ve ever seen, and showed why he is the best pitcher alive. He wasn’t always this dominant, however, and as the piece explains, Halladay is the poster child for why you shouldn’t overreact to a kid struggling to begin his career.
Also, my normal spot with the ESPN 710 guys will be at 11:30.
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Dave, I like your article and how you remind M’s fans not to be so quick to ditch prospects. I think Shin-Soo Choo is the perfect example of this.
Tek makes a great point, BUT it was not Mariner fans who gave up so quick…Mariner fans didn’t have the chance as they were not here long enough for M’s fans to give up on them. It was Bill Bavasi who gave away both Choo and Astrubel Cabrera to Cleveland in a lame effort to keep his job by giving (trading) away prospects for over the hill veterans.
In writing about M’s prospects who were ditched early….what ever happened to “Doyle” Snelling and Justin Leone? Are either still in professional baseball?
Well, given the way some fans are so quick to emulate these potentates of emerging baseball talent (Smoak sucks! Saunders suck! Get those bums outta here!), I’m not so sure the comparison’s not appropriate…
I can’t help but hear Brandon Morrow’s name echoing in my head after reading this.
Phillies catcher Ruiz’ fielding on that final out was amazing. That could easily have been an infield hit, or even an infield hit + throwing error. Not quite as spectacular as Omar Vizquel’s barehanded fielding to preserve Bosio’s no-no, but Ruiz deserves mad props.
I was living in Toronto at the time Halladay imploded and recall talk of possible trades but the guy had so little value. Besides, Halladay was Gord Ash’s first pick as GM in 1995, and “giving up” on him would have been seen as more cement in Ash’s shoes.
Here’s an interesting piece on the Halladay reclamation project. Check out the role of Mel Queen, who I hope at least gets a nice a fruit basket from the Halladays at Christmas.
That Halladay reclamation article was indeed, as one of the commenters said, epic. Thanks for the link.
It’s sort of an inverse Nuke LaLoosh (of “Bull Durham”) story. Nuke had lights-out stuff but had to simmer in the minors to mature and learn the game. Halladay was already in the majors, but had to get sent all the way down to A Ball to re-learn how to pitch; sounds like he didn’t spend that long there though; even with the total revamp of his throwing motion, starting with 10-foot throws, it sounds like his total time in the minors was a few months?
Does Baker have anything better to do than read Dave’s posts, then try to refute them? Really lame.
You’re still reading Baker?
The Double was 15 years ago today if you want a happy M’s thought 🙂
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I dunno, might be intriguing to take a look at the percentage of struggling kids who go on to do well vs. the ones who disappear into anonymity. Examples of each pop into my mind immediately. What distinguishes who you stick with versus who you drop?
Conversely, there are those who come blazing onto the scene then immediately drop off a cliff.
Wow, it grows into a huge case study.
Someone write a book.