Game 70, Mariners at Diamondbacks

marc w · June 19, 2012 at 5:01 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Erasmo Ramirez vs. Daniel Hudson, 6:40pm

Erasmo Ramirez takes the mound looking to improve on his starting debut which featured equal parts promise and frustration. He’s able to throw with above-average velocity and has above-average control, but he’s still finding it difficult to miss a lot of bats. Ground balls should help, but the margins are so slim, and if he misses his spots, those grounders turn into hard-hit balls.

Daniel Hudson starts for the D-Backs, one of their excellent young starting pitchers who comes in fresh off a 7 IP 1 R performance against the Texas Rangers. But after a breakout season in 2010 (during which he was traded to Arizona) and a great 2011 that saw him post nearly 5 fWAR, he’s been inconsistent and injury-plagued in 2012. He made all of three starts in April before going on the shelf with shoulder soreness (yeesh). He came back in late May, and his velocity’s down about 1 mph from where it was back in April. Overall, there’s not much different in terms of peripherals- his K% and BB% are down just slightly from where they were in 2011, for example. The big change is in his HR allowed, which is susceptible to huge swings when we’re talking about a sample of a half-dozen starts or so. Jason Vargas’ has seen his HRs spike in recent months and he was gracious enough to spot a couple of dingers to the Giants, so I think it’d be sporting for Hudson to continue to dispense meatballs liberally throughout his outing tonight.

The thing that initially gets your attention when watching Hudson is his release point. Similar to the White Sox Chris Sale, Hudson has a real sidearm/low three-quarter delivery, releasing the ball about 5′ from the ground. This helps him get good horizontal movement on his pitches, and his solid velocity (92-94) means he can get the occasional swing and miss. His stuff’s not in Sale’s league, but that hasn’t stopped him from being an effective SP. But I *am* surprised that he’s able to be effective against left-handed hitting line-ups. Almost everyone stacks lefties against Hudson, and I’m sure the M’s will too. When we think of deliveries like this, we often think of relievers like Sean Green (before he went full-on sidearm) or Jeff Nelson – guys with massive platoon splits. Here are Hudson’s. He’s actually gotten slightly better results off of lefties in his career (though this is largely BABIP driven). This is pretty counter-intuitive, even for someone with a good change-up, like Hudson.

There was just a fascinating (if math-y) article on *why* it’s tough for same-handed hitters to pick up the ball when facing a sidearmer. The short answer is that it’s easier for a RHB to track a pitch the closer it’s thrown to the first- baseline, and this has the effect of decreasing its apparent velocity to the hitter. Given this, it’s sort of remarkable that guys like Sale and Hudson can do what they do – namely, neutralize opposite-handed batters. This is relevant for M’s fans, because one of the knocks on Danny Hultzen was that his delivery might make him susceptible to good RH batters. Obviously, Hultzen’s got a great change-up too, but the angle would seem to give righties some advantages. So think of Hultzen tonight if the M’s get shut down by Hudson.

Hultzen starts the Southern League All-Star Game against the D-Backs prospect Tyler Skaggs tonight, and, to complete the rivalry, the Tacoma Rainiers host the D-Backs AAA affiliate, the Reno Aces tonight at Cheney. Trevor Bauer, the Diamondbacks prospect who many think will join the big club in a matter of weeks, gets the start.

The line-up:
1: Ichiro (RF)
2: Gutierrez (CF)
3: Seager (3B)
4: Montero (C)
5: Saunders (LF)
6: Smoak (1B)
7: Ackley (2B)
8: Ryan (SS)
9: Erasmooooo (SP)

Huh. Not as left-handed as I’d have guessed, frankly. I guess the M’s have seen Hudson’s splits too.

Comments

241 Responses to “Game 70, Mariners at Diamondbacks”

  1. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 10:16 pm

    Jesus: No mas mirando por los rapidos quando tienes dos strikos!!!

  2. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:19 pm

    Ackley!

  3. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:19 pm

    Bunt bunt bunt bunt bunt!

  4. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:20 pm

    As if you have to plant that thought into Wedge’s head, Mike!

  5. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:21 pm

    Samregens, I love you man … But this game is ass. IMO

  6. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:24 pm

    Wow, a bunt. Didn’t see that coming.

  7. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:25 pm

    Wedge, where are your guts? Are you a chicken?

    Perfect spot for a suicide squeeze…

    hehehe

  8. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:25 pm

    Hit hit hit hit hit

  9. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:25 pm

    Wells!!!! Welcome back once again!

  10. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:26 pm

    Sure, Casper Wells gets a boring traditional hit.

  11. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:26 pm

    Fundies … Sweet!

    Less of an ass taste for the time being.

  12. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:26 pm

    You practicing voodoo, Mike?!

  13. nvn8vbryce on June 19th, 2012 10:26 pm

    Casper, the friendly ghost… er… batter!

  14. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 10:27 pm

    I love this guy!

  15. The_Waco_Kid on June 19th, 2012 10:27 pm

    More playing time for Wells please!

  16. samregens on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    msfanmike, yes, I was half joking. Safeco games are more tight and ascetically clean. If only the Ms could hit like other teams there.

  17. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    Crank up hit #4, Eech

  18. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    FAIR BALL!

  19. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    Ichiro AGAIN!!!

  20. The_Waco_Kid on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    Ichiro!

  21. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    Fuck off Bob and Groz!

  22. nvn8vbryce on June 19th, 2012 10:29 pm

    I’m wondering if Eech reads USSM…

  23. samregens on June 19th, 2012 10:30 pm

    12-9, wow, this is awesome!

  24. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:31 pm

    Roger, Samregens.

    We need some sort of balance between no runs and slo-mo softball. I agree with you.

  25. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 10:32 pm

    Someone has to play 1B. Ackley?

  26. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 10:33 pm

    Mike, you always come through with a laugh!

  27. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:33 pm

    Close close close close close.

  28. Slats on June 19th, 2012 10:33 pm

    Take that Putz!

  29. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 10:34 pm

    I assume Ackley to first, Kawasaki to 2nd.

  30. enazario on June 19th, 2012 10:36 pm

    I know that Ichiro is not the same anymore but I don’t see that his bat speed has diminished.

  31. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:37 pm

    No voodoo, I am “bi-winning” and channelling my inner Charlie Sheen.

  32. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:38 pm

    I watched that movie last night.

  33. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    Game!

  34. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    That was a total team effort.

  35. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    Brandon League is your official July deadline trade.

  36. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    A nice, pithy 4:01 game.

    Bed bed bed bed bed.

  37. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    WOO HOO!!

  38. justdave on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    I thought NL games were supposed to be short & curveballs didn’t curve in the desert. Wow what
    a game, eh?

  39. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:42 pm

    Mix those metaphors, Casper!

  40. nvn8vbryce on June 19th, 2012 10:48 pm

    No voodoo, I am “bi-winning” and channelling my inner Charlie Sheen.

    See ya at the Schick!

  41. greentunic on June 19th, 2012 11:01 pm

    A perfect 3K save for Tom.

    That bodes well for his (our) future.

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