A Mariners Don’t Anger Us Podcast
Matthew Carruth · May 10, 2013 at 10:02 am · Filed Under Mariners
Well things got better. The Mariners went 8-4 since the last podcast, beating up on some fellow bottom dwellers and now they look downright forgettable instead of abjectly embarrassing. So it’s a kindlier and gentler, albeit often divergent, Jeff and Matthew podcast this time around.
Speaking of not speaking solely about the Mariners, at the end I ask about how people feel when we venture off the strict Mariners path. Please leave your feelings below on the matter.
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I’ve been merely a lurker for a few years and hardly ever comment, so maybe my opinion isn’t as relevant, but I love the off topic tangents that come up on the podcasts.
Okay, there’s been multiple allusions —in different posts, and now in the podcast—to the fact that there’s information (to which only a few people are privy to) indicating the front office is horribly run.
Jeff: “I think, based on what we know—some public, some not—about how the team is run, I don’t care if the team wins 88 games this year. I still think they should get it changed, just because it seems they could do better than what they have now.”
To put it bluntly—what the hell’s going on? Is it the super-bizarre Blengino situation? Something else? I know certain individuals are clued in to information with the understanding they won’t share it, but I can’t help but be intrigued by this.
I never understood how people got so angry about receiving free content/analysis. You’re not going to get novel content on a podcast or radio show anyway; you’re just going to get a different flavor.
Do whatever you guys want to do and ignore any boo birds.
I will listen to anything the two of you feel like talking about.
Since you asked for feedback…
I think some of your off-topic stuff is funny and/or interesting. I think that you shouldn’t go down the road of every tangent that jumps in your brain (this is true of Jeff’s writing, especially). Some tangents are good to explore, but good writing/podcasting/storytelling should be edited.
With that being said, I really enjoy both of you guys, your writing (especially your analysis and unique perspectives), and your podcasting. Since I’ve been reading you guys (LL, fangraphs, and now USSM), you have gotten even better, and I look forward to reading/listening to your work as it improves even more.
Thank you for what you do.
Dane, imagine how much more depressing the podcast would be if they talked solely about the Mariners…
You come to USSM looking for hope and rationalizations? You yourself state that the moves are terrible, and because Jeff and Matthew agree with you, that is somehow bad? Let me try for some even handed analysis: The front office overreacts to misunderstood perceptions about past reasoning, and no longer understands how to effectively evaluate players, as evidenced by…Oh shit I just bashed your team, I guess I’m not a real fan.
Shouldn’t we have more appreciation for people who continue to put effort into writing about this team in the face of unending disappointment, instead of complaining about their perceived level of fandom? If you think the Mariners blogging community is being short changed (I almost died laughing when I read this) then get started, maybe you can save it.
You should post a permalink somewhere to the first minute or so of the last podcast. It really never gets old.
Jeff and Matthew –
I like your podcasts as they are now – where you drift from the Mariners to talking about not the Mariners and back. So I suggest keep doing that. Which is probably not helpful.
The segments might be interesting too. So in the end, this comment is really not helpful. Just keep making podcasts, as I like them.
I am happy to listen to whatever you guys want to talk about! The tangents can be fun.
I am hoping, though – perhaps at some point after the regime changes – we get to hear a little about this “not public” stuff. 😀 But maybe there are some sources you can’t/won’t burn, which I’d understand.
If people don’t like the podcasts then they are either on crack, meth, or something else equally strong. I’m just glad you still have them since leaving Lookout Landing.
Tangents are good.
Okay, I’ve now heard the entire podcast and understand Matthew’s question a little better.
As far as non-baseball podcasts go – as long as the description for the podcast makes the general subject clear, I don’t see a problem with doing them… or even posting them here. I might listen to them, or I might not. It’s really hard to predict and would depend on my mood.
Regarding non-Mariners baseball news – I wouldn’t mind hearing more of it in the podcasts. I enjoy your back-and-forth whenever you go off on a tangent regarding the Jays, Angels, or whoever.
I assume most people who listen to your podcasts are subscribing through iTunes or another similar service, rather than downloading them manually when they see them listed here – so listing them here or not probably doesn’t affect listenership substantially. I do like seeing the posts on general principle, though.
The bottom line is – you’re doing this for free, and you should feel free to talk about what interests you.
This discussion highlights the unfortunate reality of the current situation; it’s hard to know what to root for. I am congenitally incapable of rooting for my team to lose, strategically; I want every game I’m watching to be a win, no matter how trivial it is. But rationally, a 500 season may well mean more Wedge, More Zduriencik, and we get to find out what the process that told him to sign Ibanez, field a team with six DHs, and hire and retain Wedge will bring us next. Ugh.
(on that question, please ramble on about whatever you like. You’re intelligent, entertaining and funny, and I put the podcast on while doing some dreary paperwork, so it’s not like I’m losing time listening to it. If people don’t like it, they’re free to try another flavor of free ice cream)
I don’t mind the off topic stuff, but I wouldn’t really be interested in hearing you guys talk about hockey or other sports. Talking about non-Mariners baseball stuff is cool. Those are my only two thoughts really. I think the podcasts are pretty cool and nice to listen to when I’m driving home. Keep doing the good work.
I’ve been a long time LL podcast listener (take that as you will) and I’ve always liked the way that off topic stuff sort of comes up organically. Now would specific segments really take away from the podcast experience? I mean I don’t know, probably not. So yeah either way I’m sure it would be fine. One thing I will reccomend for segments is a “Hate on the Astros” block. I remember back when they were in the NL Central and you guys realized truly how bad they were on the podcast. Anyway keep up the great work, I always enjoy these.
I’m not sure I would want entire podcasts without baseball but I can’t say for sure if you don’t try it.
As to the baseball podcasts I do like the ragging on the Angels.
My favorite blog headline ever was “Angels Punished By Jesus”
Jeff and Matthew, don’t ever change. If people don’t like the podcast, then they can just not listen to it. By now, they should know what it entails and whether it interests them or not. If they are upset by that, then they should just not listen to it.
So, after essentially B.S.’ing around for 15 minutes, then you get into a discussion of who should or shouldn’t get fired, why they’re lucky not to be fired, when they might be fired, etc.
Really? That’s what you’ve got? What the 12-year-olds talk about incessantly on Baker’s blog?
OK, I understand being in Europe for a couple weeks and not knowing what’s going on. But then why talk about what you don’t know?
Talk about Europe–it would be a lot more rewarding for your listeners.
Matthew and Jeff:
Please do whatever the fuck you want. You guys are fucking hilarious, and it doesn’t fucking bother me one fucking bit that you swear so much.
Europe, sexually transmitted diseases, hockey, gay porn, phrenology… Whatever.
If there is one thing I ask is that Jeff says more words that start with the letter “P”.
Completely seriously, though, these conversations remind me of the conversations I have with my best friend from high school when we get together. We talk for hours, and the area above my ears ends up hurting because I’m smiling and laughing so much. These remind me of those conversations, and I enjoy them more than almost anything on the internet.
Please, more podcasts! Your tangents are fun, too. I’d vote for at least some Mariners talk, but as long as it’s free, do what you want!
After reading and listening to you guys for years, I think I have a good idea of what you’ll typically say about the Mariners. That said, I still like hearing/reading you thoughts and analysis, mostly because of you personalities, so wouldn’t want that completely abandoned in the podcast. But there is really only so much that would be interesting to talk about regarding the Mariners, so I like that it isn’t an obsessive focus of the podcast (though one gap we have since Jay Yencich stopped posting is info about the minor league system – if you could find a guest or two every once in a while to talk about that, it’d be awesome).
In my opinion, I’d welcome increased discussion on other teams, other sports, and other off-topic items. And I enjoy the freewheeling, meandering discussions, though if you wanted to impose greater structure to touch on those other topics, I think that’d be fine.