Brad Miller!
I’m sold.
No, he’s not going to keep this up, since as I type this, he has a 138 wRC+, which is six points higher than Ken Griffey Jr’s career mark of 132. 44 plate appearances don’t tell you anything about anyone, really. Remember how awesome Vernon Wells and Yuniesky Betancourt were back in April? Miller could still have a serious flaw that we just haven’t seen yet. Dustin Ackley is a constant reminder of that. Jumping to conclusions based on a few weeks of performance is simply not a good idea.
But, yeah, Brad Miller. He’s not really doing anything in Seattle that he didn’t do in the minors. He’s drawing walks, making enough contact, and hitting line drives. He’s slugging .487 without yet hitting his first Major League home run. He runs really well, and is going to add value on the bases. His defense hasn’t even been bad, much less horrifyingly unplayable.
If we were going to pick nits, the strikeout rate could be problematic in the long term, especially against left-handed pitchers. Guys who strike out a decent amount generally need to hit for power to offset the reduced number of balls in play, and Miller’s probably not going to be a big time power guy. There aren’t a ton of players who strike out 20% of the time, hit few home runs, and are still productive hitters. Miller’s faced almost entirely right-handed pitching so far, and he could be susceptible to posting some significant platoon splits, which would bring down his overall offensive numbers as a full-time player.
But as long as Miller can stick at shortstop, he doesn’t have to be a great hitter. An average hitter is a pretty spectacular shortstop as long as he can defend the position, and there are plenty of reasons to think that Miller could easily be that kind of average hitter while playing the position. If he pulls a Kyle Seager or Nick Franklin and hits for more power than you’d expect from his frame, being an above average hitter isn’t out of the question. He certainly hits the ball hard enough to envision a lot of doubles, and maybe some of those will eventually turn into home runs.
We’re dealing with less than two weeks of baseball games, so there’s still plenty of time for the Brad Miller experiment to go terribly wrong in the second half. And it might. Baseball is weird that way. But he hasn’t given us any reason to think a total collapse is likely, and he’s shown more than enough to think that he could be the long term answer at shortstop for the organization.
Justin Smoak‘s latest power surge and Raul Ibanez‘s hilarious age defying season have gotten more headlines, but replacing Brendan Ryan with Brad Miller is one of the primary reasons this offense has looked pretty good over the last few weeks. As I write this, Miller’s wOBA is 130 points higher than Ryan’s, which is basically the equivalent of replacing Justin Smoak with Miguel Cabrera. He’s going to regress, and he might even regress a lot, but Brad Miller is showing enough that I think the Mariners can plan on him starting at shortstop on Opening Day next year.
He might play himself out of that job with more exposure to big league pitching, or the defensive problems from his minor league days might reappear, but right now, Brad Miller looks like a real franchise building block.
Hell yeah!
I am dreaming of playoffs next season.
Miller shall be known as Crazy Legs.
Looking forward to Miller & Franklin becoming a Seattle institution up the middle.
Plus you gotta love Brad’s old school style.
“….which is basically the equivalent of replacing Justin Smoak with Miguel Cabrera.”
Love that line…looking good!!
Crazy Legs sure runs with abandon on the bases!
Watching Miller, Franklin, Saunders, and Ackley on the basepaths has been fun recently. I was just going to say “the young guys” rather than name them individually, but there’s another young guy who’s probably the slowest runner on the team. Well, most of them are fast anyway!
I remember fondly the talk of him being a big reach in the draft. I remember he had some kind of issue with his swing. Is that still there/real?
I haven’t heard Dave so enthusiastic about a Mariner since Ackley came up in 2011!
On the other hand, if he strikes out a bunch against left-handed batters, that could be a real problem, especially in the AL.
I’n my eight or so years reading this blog every day, one universal truth has stood out: The Dave Cameron Prospect Stamp of Approval is a kiss of death. Watch him post a sub .600 OPS for the rest of the year. Dave just HAD to make this post, didn’t he?
Blake Beavan!
Sell.
Wow! That was quick.
Someone needs to tell Jesus Montero that the future of this team has left the station and that he better jump aboard quickly or risk being left behind for good.
The second wave of prospects has sure looked more promising than the first wave. Seager is the exception, but he wasn’t considered one of the first wave’s top prospects. Both Miller and Franklin exude energy and enthusiasm, which may help them overcome obstacles and any of Wedge’s getting into their heads with how much pressure rookies are under.
I like Miller’s and Franklin’s base running probably as much as anything else they are doing. After all the chugging choo-choos the M’s imported, its refreshing to see players that can run.
Brad Miller sounds like a guy other teams have, you know, Atlanta Braves shortstop, perennial all star, Brad Miller.
You gotta love the way he runs, it’s exhilarating! Like Ichiro in his prime sorta. You get Miller running, then Franklin and Seager it’s like a track meet. With Morales (shot put) and Ibanez (discus) and Smoak (javelin).
He has the second highest OPS on the team (.831 after Raul’s 8.53)
Bravo, Dave, and I totally agree with the premise of your post. Despite the loss last night, it is so nice to see 7 of the 9 in the lineup being possible parts of the Mariner future instead of place-holders. It’s also exciting think that we may have 3-4 more of the current wave of prospects to go (Hultzen, Paxton, Walker, Romero). If the past couple of weeks are a prelude of things to come, the Mariners will be a handful in August/September, and next year might be the most fun we’ve had as fans in over a decade.
So, my biggest question is whether the recent surge of hitting from Mr. Smoak is a sign of real change or just a short-sample hot streak. It sure appears to me that he is becoming a legitimate hitter but that could be wishful thinking on my part. Just how long would it take for an analyst to conclude that it’s not wishful thinking, and that Smoak is a late bloomer?
Awesome to see some true hope in the organization! If Hultzen and Walker can break camp next year with the club, and if Zunino can take the next step, this team might start to look mighty intriguing . . .
Dave – You’re going to ruin your status as an agitator and ne’er-do-well if you write positive pieces like this! I’m just sayin’…
(and hell yeah, am I being happily surprised by both Franklin and Miller. *Guarded* optimism, all ’round!)
Awesome to see some true hope in the organization! If Hultzen and Walker can break camp next year with the club, and if Zunino can take the next step, this team might start to look mighty intriguing . . .
This team is still a team with zero, nil, none, bupkis, nada outfielders under long term contract under 30 who’ve shown any long-term ability to be consistently average MLB performers (which is not an incredibly high bar- I don’t think any organization been as incompetent at developing OFers to produce in their organization as the M’s have been over the past 20 years). The closest we have is Saunders, who’s had a grand total of one season where he was OK, and has a lifetime OPS of .650, lifetime WAR of 2 in about 3 MLB seasons.
We’re a ways out from being good still, even if the middle infield defensive skill positions are starting to improve nicely. This is still going to be a slog for a while.
“We’re a ways out from being good still, even if the middle infield defensive skill positions are starting to improve nicely. This is still going to be a slog for a while.”
I agree that the median timeframe is still a ways out, but at least we can now entertain the thought of ‘if it all goes right’.
The team will have some money in FA and a few appropriate signings might shore up the OF for next season. Of course, these signings would be orchestrated by the same people who brought us Bay/Morse/Ibanez in the OF, so that puts a damper on the idea, but the fact remains that some optimism feels great right now.
Justin Smoak’s last 352 PA’s:
.289/.384/.462; OPS=.846; wOBA=.373; UZR= roughly neutral
It’s kind of praise worthy.
He is fun to watch – but he’s nothing like Ichiro. Ichiro was always in absolute control. Miller runs as if some girl’s shotgun-wielding father is right behind him.
How many hot-streaks does Smoak have to go on before ya’ll stop drinking the Kool-Aid?
This has all happened before and it will all happen again…
Been impressed with Miller’s glove so far, flashing quick hands on a couple of hops that jumped up on him. Doesn’t look like he has mastered total control of his body yet, but that could be a mirage – a byproduct of his lanky build and speed – similar to the way he runs. Reminds me a bit of Hunter Pence in that regard.
As for the quality baserunning from Miller/Franklin, it’s reminiscent of the Yount/Molitor combo. Unfair comparison at the plate, but the youthful versions Yount/Molitor were two of the best baserunners of their era.
opiate82, 352 PA’s is basically a half season’s worth, and has featured some valleys as well as peaks. I’m not sure a hot streak is a fair assessment. I suppose you could argue it’s two hot streak sandwiched around a cold spell, but 352 PA’s is 352 PA’s.
I’m not at all sold this is the new Smoak, but I’m not ready to write him off like I was last year at this time either.
I agree that the median timeframe is still a ways out, but at least we can now entertain the thought of ‘if it all goes right’.
You can always entertain that thought. If Ackley had bounced back to 2011, Gutierrez to 2009 and stayed healthy, Montero taken a nice step forward as a hitter, Ramirez not gotten injured, this would probably be a .500ish ballclub.
I’m not at all sold this is the new Smoak, but I’m not ready to write him off like I was last year at this time either.
I don’t think cherry-picking 352 of his PAs makes a lot of sense.
Smoak’s Casey Kotchman without speed or defense; in other words, not a lot of power, some walks, some hitting, injury problems. The total package is a below-average MLB 1B.
It’s quite possible for a below-average 1B to have good, even All-Star-caliber seasons, because if we imagine Smoak as a 1-1.5 WAR 1B as a full time player, that doesn’t mean every season he has will be 1-1.5 WAR. Some seasons could be 0, some could be 2.5, and so on.
Is Smoak useless? No. Is he a significant improvement on Mike Carp as a player? No (they are close to the same kind of player). Should the M’s forgo the opportunity to improve their talent at 1B if they can? No- the M’s didn’t keep Carp around when they brought in Kendry Morales, so if, say, Montero starts hitting in the minors like he knows what he’s doing, I wouldn’t be irrationally attached to Smoak, either.
“Miller runs as if some girl’s shotgun-wielding father is right behind him”
Now THAT is good stuff Westy!
Hey, you have to admit that there is a definite buzz around the franchise watching the kids play (sometimes quite well). They will surely need some FA’s to bolster their adolescent journey through next season. It should be more fun than watching this year’s M’s for sure.
Between Smoak, Morales, Ibanez and Morse…..don’t two of these have to go? At least one, right? Never mind what we do with Bay.
I know we have to lead the league in DH/1B players. I know it’s probably dreaming that Z gets it right for next year. We can still hope.
Does anyone have a list, or a link to one, of the free agents that will be potentially available next offseason? Time to start rosterbating.
The impact of Miller + Improved Smoak can be seen by going to Fangraphs’ Teams page, filtering for the last 14 days and sorting on wRC+. Spoiler alert: the M’s are on top. They’re in second (behind those pesky Red Sox) when sorting by wOBA.
Like Dave said that probably won’t continue. Ibanez isn’t going to hit a home run in 27% of his PA’s all season (is he??) and Smoak and Miller will come down to earth a bit. But this team is better than it was when Ryan and Ackley were our double play combo.
Side note: Ackley seems to actually be hitting the ball harder since returning. I still have some hope for the guy. Especially if he can play decent outfield and second base…he can be a part of a good team.
Here are many of the free agents available next season. I have sifted out the chaf (and former Mariner throwaways) from the wheat.
Catchers
Jose Molina
A.J. Pierzynski
Jarrod Saltalamacchia
Kurt Suzuki
First basemen
Todd Helton
Xavier Nady
Mike Napoli
Paul Konerko
James Loney
Kendrys Morales
Mike Morse
Kevin Youkilis
Second basemen
Chase Utley
Ben Zobrist
Shortstops
Alexi Casilla
Jhonny Peralta
Brendan Ryan
Third basemen
Brandon Inge
Mark Reynolds
Kevin Youkilis
Outfielders
Jason Bay
Raul Ibanez
Jason Kubel
Mike Morse
Ryan Raburn
Delmon Young
Rick Ankiel
Coco Crisp
Jacoby Ellsbury
Curtis Granderson
Franklin Gutierrez
Chris Young
Shin-Soo Choo
Nelson Cruz
David DeJesus
Jeff Francoeur
Hunter Pence
Designated hitters
Lance Berkman
Jason Giambi
Travis Hafner
Raul Ibanez
Kendrys Morales
Michael Young
Pitchers
A.J. Burnett
Chris Capuano
Chris Carpenter
Bruce Chen
Bartolo Colon
Aaron Cook
Jon Garland
Matt Garza
Aaron Harang
Dan Haren
Phil Hughes
Scott Kazmir
Tim Lincecum
Paul Maholm
Shaun Marcum
Jason Marquis
Roy Oswalt
Mike Pelfrey
Ervin Santana
Johan Santana
Joe Saunders
Jason Vargas
Manny Acosta
Matt Albers
Joba Chamberlain
Chad Gaudin
Mark Lowe
Eric O’Flaherty
Darren Oliver
Manny Parra
Oliver Perez
groundzero55
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/02/2014-mlb-free-agents.html
Zunino has impressed me, too. Not in that he has excelled, but in that he has held his own, even without a lot of offense.
We don’t have to talk about “what were giving up” by having him be the guy behind the plate, like we’ve had to say with the last 6-8 guys back there.
He’s in over his head, but he isn’t sinking.
This bodes well for him moving forward.
Not many guys are manning the catcher position, as a starter, in the Major Leagues a year after being drafted. That’s impressive even if he isn’t anywhere near top of the league at his position.
Basically, with a couple twists here and there, some crucial call-ups… We’re suddenly a couple of MLB outfielders, and back of the rotation starters, away from being a contending team in the Tampa/Oakland tradition.
With loads of money to spend next season, and some trade pieces going into the deadline this season.
Suddenly, we’re “kinda” on the verge of something.
It makes such a HUGE difference to building when some of your home-grown guys pan out.
Seattle Mariners blog for analysis, commentary, and Sergio Millar appreciation.
I can see it happening.
Mr. Serg to most folks…
(That’s a funny story I hadn’t heard until I googled it… The “three Brads” so his teammates nicknamed him Sergio…)
_David_ from back at 11:30 or so:
” I remember he had some kind of issue with his swing. Is that still there/real?”
No, that’s not still there. Before he was drafted, Miller held his hands/bat extremely high, like over his head, almost like (but not as extreme as) Craig Counsell. That was changed early on, and video from the low minors and AA Jackson showed the difference. His hands are still high, but not exaggeratedly so.
The worry was that this stance maximized the amount of movement during a pitcher’s windup he needed to get that bat in position to swing, and could leave him vulnerable to changes in speed.
We’ve all taken some shots at Mariner player development snafus over the years, but this one at least is as clear-cut of a “win” as you’ll find. Taijuan Walker and Brad Miller are two players that M’s PD helped a ton.
Looking a half season’s worth of PAs makes a lot of sense and is a standard split to look at…. It makes a heck of a lot more sense then waxing poetic about 44 PAs if one is going to play the sample size card.
If only player development could work a miracle with Peguero.
Like one of the previous posters said, it is so awesome to see a line-up with future M’s in it instead of just veteran placeholders. My fear is that with the franchise seemingly on the upswing, that this will buy more time for Zduriencik and Wedge, both of which use logic that is bad for the long-term potential of the franchise. I’m afraid that Z will stay and attempt more Josh Hamilton/Prince Fielder type signings and trade one of our awesome up-and-comers for $0.60 on the dollar a la Fister, Brandon Morrow, Jaso, etc.
With the recent Mariner upswing, will Z be back next year?
2013 DREAM ROSTER * Free Agents
Starters
King Felix
Hisashi Iwakuma
Matt Garza *
Erasmo Ramirez
Tim Lincecum *
PEN
Maurer
Paxton
Capps
Medina
Furbush
Pryor
Whilhelmson
CF – Jacoby Elsbury *
2b – Nick Franklin
3B – Kyle Seager
DH – Kendrys Morales
RF – Hunter Pence *
1B – Justin Smoak
LF – Michael Saunders
C – Mike Zunino
SS – Brad Miller
DH/1B – Raul Ibanez
OF – Endy Chavez
OF/INF – Justin Ackley
C/1B – Jose Montero/Sucre
UT – Willie Bloomquist *
… aaaaand Fonzie has just revved up the motrocycle and is on his way over the rosterbation ramp…
nice epo….yes I did leave 26 on the roster. If we can’t get Willie, then we sign Endy. Can’t keep both under this roster obviously.
Onto the ramp, and over their heads!
Uh oh I’m not used to Dave seeming giddy about a Mariner! But seriously it’s nice to have a few guys to be excited about. Miller, Franklin, Seager, Zunino, and yes I believe in Zunino’s future. I’ve actually enjoyed the games lately let’s just hope it continues.
Re: Smoakie
Yes the guy has had his hot streaks before, but they have previously only lasted the length of a road trip, not three months. Fortunately for the M’s offseason decision making, Smoak still has 70 games to go. At the very least, unless Smoak turns back into a pumpkin, the team can focus its available financial resources on the outfield and rotation.
Finally, the M’s are at the point where free agent signings won’t just be about turning terrible into palatable.
Should we refer to him as champagne? As in the champagne of shortstops?
Wouldn’t want to see Maurer in the pen. Paxton’s a bit older, so if they decide to turn him into Arthur Rhodes, I guess I won’t argue. (I really liked that guy.)
We can’t give Wedgie Willie, because he’s sure to be starting him by the ASB.
I believe Bloomquist could serve as an above average bench presence for the M’s. He can play every position. Can run and be a good right handed bat option off the bench. What we have now in the way of comparison is Bay. OUCH!!!
Just looked him up on B-Ref. He hits better than he ever has!
If we need a utility guy we have Triunfel in Tacoma. We don’t need a mid thirtys bench player that is
starting to make regular trips to the DL