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How long is that horse going to be beat?
Until Dave Myers doesn’t work here, anymore.
Think of it as Japanese-style training. But instead of throwing 430 pitches, they’ll have to respond to 430 late stop signs. The ones who can still stand on either leg at the end get promoted.
Yeah yeah yeah, it’s not entirely or even mostly his fault, we’ve said it here ourselves, don’t get too worked up about it.
And the team trainer will be none other than Spyder Webb.
he’s been there at least a decade, right?
by the way, High Epopt, when do we learn the secret handshake and song?
Speaking of M’s coaching news. There’s a top-level link from the M’s homepage to this article on Dan Rohn’s contribution to the team. Are they prepping the fan base (most of whom haven’t heard of the guy) for his future ascension to the manager’s spot? Stay tuned!
RE: Dan Rohn article
That was a thought I had as well when I saw that. What I find encouraging about Dan Rohn’s current position is that he is forced to look closely at and study stats. If, and when, he gets promoted to managing at the big league level, you have to figure that he will be a little wiser in terms of looking at the numbers.
In his words:
“It’s pretty insightful. I’m able to pull up about anything we need on anybody at any time. You see the game from a different vantage point.”
Given that the number of baseball guys around that have little interest in using statistics to challenge the baseball norm (Joe Morgan, I’m looking at you), its nice to see he atleast is being exposed to a different way to look at the game.
11 – Of the band of idiots on KJR Fain is ABSOLUTELY the dumbest, most ill informed when it comes to baseball (which is saying a lot). If I weren’t at work I’d call to rip ’em up. Any volunteers to take these clowns out to the woodshed?
As for Dave “GoGoGo STOP” Myers I agree that it’s time to let it go . . . but just to be safe he shouldn’t be allowed within 500 feet of Doyle until he retires.
Suspicious quote from the Dan Rohn article:
“After spending the last five seasons managing at Triple-A Tacoma, where he was twice named the Pacific Coast League Manager of the Year, Rohn was hired to coordinate the team’s scouting information.”
Hey Mariners Fans, did you know that Dan Rohn is A REALLY GOOD BASEBALL MANAGER!? I’ll bet you didn’t know that!
Not worked up at all. In fact, kind of laughing at those who do get worked up over it.
The Dave Myers is the devil thing with some people is as illogical as the WFB is THE Igniter
(likes playing with tags)
How long is that horse going to be beat?
Until its bones have been turned to calcium carbonate powder.
#10:
I read that article and came away with two distinct impressions.
First, it’s a good strategy to get guys like Hargrove and Hawsey to pay attention to the statistical data. If the info were being fed to them by some 25-year old whiz kid MBA, they would just dismiss it and throw it in the trash. But when it comes from a “pedigreed baseball guy” who has been in their position and paid his dues, they’re a lot more likely to pay attention to it.
Second, is that the assignment looks like a grooming assignment for Rohn. It puts him in a position of learning a new way of looking at game information and seeing how to use statistical data in on-field decision. Rohn says in the article it’s expanding his way of looking at the game.
As a manager, if I were going to try to steer an organization toward using that type of information more effectively, putting a flexible, open-minded “old school” guy in charge of a project like that is a good strategy to accomplish that objective. Reading between the words of the article, it appears that Rohn is that type of flexible guy.
Further, if I wanted a manager who is more savvy in handling this kind of stat than the old school guys who fill ranks of managerial candidates, I would address my need by taking a guy like Rohn and inserting him into this kind of position.
Though the story is basically the usual mlb.com fluff, I think there’s some real substance in this article. Of course, being an mlb.com fluff pice, the writer completely overlooked or ignored the real story.
by the way, High Epopt, when do we learn the secret handshake and song?
Well, here’s a try at the song. The problem is that “Australia” has three syllables, “Doyle” only one. So, you kinda have to elide part of the title. Well, unless Deanna can come up with something better.
Advance C—- S——- Fair
(To the tune of “Advance Australia Fair”)
Mariners all let us rejoice,
For Doyle is young and free;
His ACLs and PCLs
Have healed splendiferously;
His glove, his bat, his DH gifts
Are organizationally rare;
Across the Sound, let us resound
Advance C—- S——- fair!
In joyful strains then let us sing,
Non-sexual man crushes be damned:
Advance C—- S——- fair!
ARRRGH. Corrected:
Advance Câ€â€- Sâ€â€Ã¢â‚¬â€- Fair
(To the tune of “Advance Australia Fairâ€Â)
Mariners all let us rejoice,
For Doyle is young and free;
His ACLs and PCLs
Have healed splendiferously;
His glove, his bat, his DH gifts
Are organizationally rare;
Across the Sound, let us resound
Advance Câ€â€- Sâ€â€Ã¢â‚¬â€- fair!
Non-sexual man crushes be damned:
Advance Câ€â€- Sâ€â€Ã¢â‚¬â€- fair!
Hmmm….my reaction on the Rohn story is that anytime you can get field paper to be thinking about numbers and hard data is a good thing. And it’s revealing to me that they’re STILL going by memory and hunch these days–if it helps them to pounce on emerging trends, that’s a Good Thing.
How long is that horse going to be beat?
Until first graders are eating the glue.
Have any of you actually watched the replay of Snelling blowing out his knee in ’02? I don’t really think Myers can be blamed.
18: I had it up on youtube until it got disabled. (No pun intended.)
If this FO thinks numbers are important and are getting Rohn to look at numbers to get him in that “frame of mind” then what numbers are the M’s using to determine that they want to sign Carl Everett are Jerrod Washburn?
9 – You’re not THE Bob Loblaw, are you? The Canadian supermarket giant?
I have watched the replay, and Myers can totally be blamed, if you buy that a bad signal means he bears responsibility for the injury, which is a dubious proposition.
You could also (and probably should) blame Doyle for running headlong around the bases and not ever looking at Myers for the signal, but you have the same problem, that not looking for a signal resulted in the injury.
He blew out the knee in the play. Neither of them is responsible so much.
21 – let’s not talk nonsense to Bob Loblaw
Do I blame Myers for Snelling’s injury? No. Do I resent Myers a little for Snelling’s injury? Yes. Or more accurately his bosses who should have removed him from that particular post before that happened.
And the reason is because I do not recall, in the many years I have been watching baseball ever being so frequently irritated at a third base coach as I was with Myers… before Doyle’s injury.
Now, the third base coach has a tiny little margin for impacting the game, but within that tiny little margin there are people who are better and people who are worse at it. Myers was the worst that I personally ever saw.
Frankly, if a third base coach is coming to my attention very often, he is probably not good at that particular task.
Obviously Myers didn’t mean to hurt anybody, but he had poor 3rd base judgement, in my opinion, though he may be great at every other aspect of the game, I dunno.