Who gets the last ten million?
DMZ · December 8, 2006 at 10:14 am · Filed Under Mariners
The M’s have money in the budget. They haven’t made a name signing to appease the restless natives. They need another starting pitcher. But there’s only maybe $10m left in the budget?
Who gets it? Quick, before they make a move.
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Playoff experience is key. It’s an intangible that is underrated.
I didn’t anybody knew what ROT13 was anymore.
Suppan’ll be great: mediocre AND a religious kook.
Curious, why was the BA prospect list deleted? Copyright issues? If so, I will refrain from posting in that manner in the future. Really, though, all I did was copy the list 1-10 and gave proper credit. Fair use, no?
It was a thread hijack and I had another post in the queue.
Plus, I hate thread hijacks. It’s rude. I wish people would knock it off.
Trade Sexon to Baltimore for Lopez and Cabrera,+cash(move Ibanez to first) and then sign Zito.5/85… maybe the season will be saved after all…or maybe not
Jeez, sorry. This thing seemed sort of like a daily news thread, to me.
I was only responding to a previous post.
I…. don’t see that. But whatever. I deleted the other post too.
They should spend the 10 million on apology cards for all their fans.
stoyboy, why on Earth would Baltimore trade Lopez AND Cabrera for Sexson?? Did I miss a transaction…did Peter Angelos decide to operate the ballclub himself? Even Mike Flanagan wouldn’t touch that deal.
The point of this thread, of course, is that this ballclub as currently operated is more than $10M in salary away from relevance in the AL West, unless some other GM gives us talent free that we cannot reasonably pay for.
Sad.
Hmmm, Lopez and Cabrera for Sexson would be the rip-off of the century (well not quite), almost as good for the winning team as that Soriano for Horacio Ramirez trad… oh, wait.
Well, it wouldn’t totally surprise me, only becuase Bavasi seems to follow up idiocy with brilliance and visa-versa, so who knows, but it’d be a like a .01% chance type trade. Of course, we should be sitting like vultures waiting for Baltimore to give up on Cabrera, if they ever do, which is also like a .01% chance of happening, but it’s not totally unprecedented, even if it would be totally stupid of them.
Ibanez + $$ for Brandon McCarthy. Hey, it fills needs.
Just curious, but what “brilliance” can you point to in the Bavasi era?
$10m or under. One pitcher.
Come on, this isn’t that hard.
#7: A dinner for Hargrove and Princess Wille.
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$10m or under. One pitcher.
Come on, this isn’t that hard.
Why do I feel like Sean Connery should be saying “That’s not what your mother said last night!” right about now, based on the last couple of threads?
PS: I’d like to ask USSM posters once again to please refrain from using ethnic slurs…
I think you have over estimated what remains of the fan base after the last few seasons.
Weaver, Jeff
That is all…
This is rediculous. That we should be talking about Suppan and Mulder in the $10M a year range shows how bad the market has inflated for pitchers. Those are the 2 I wouldn’t mind seeing signed to incentive laden deals, but with this market the team has to take the risk of injury and decline.
If other moves could be involved I’d say Sexson traded for MiLers, defensive 1bman signed on the cheap to compete or platoon with LaHair and Pettitte signed for 3/54 with the last 2 being player option years.
DMZ — Jeff Weaver 🙁
Yankees signed Pettite to 1 yr/16 million deal. Scratch him off the list……
Add me to the Mulder camp. Have an incentive-laden option clause that lets us drop him if he comes back as Gil Meche, but can turn into a multi-year deal if he comes back as, well, Mark Mulder.
I’m probably behind on reality lately, but I thought it’d be funny to suggest Chan Ho Park anyway.
Hmm. Maybe the M’s could invest in a few of these Lichtenstein pictures of pitchers.
At $16,500 a piece, they could corner the art market on them and drive them up. After all, Bavasi has driven up the price for crappy starting pitching in the trade market now. Certainly he could do the same with limited-edition art?
Tony Armas, Bruce Chen, Shawn Estes, RYAN FRANKLIN! OH YEAH!!!
Carl Pavano is due $10M this year, I’m willing to bet it ends up coming from the M’s, or at least part of it does.
Best answer so far.
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DRJ: 1)The Orioles want to trade Lopez
2)Sexon hits more HR/RBI than Millar and can protect Tejada
3)Orioles need some pop in that lineup
4)Orioles have a lot of vets and young pitchers for their
rotation left
5)Orioles need a big signing
6)Cabrera is not as good now as he will be(Will the Orioles
wait)?
7)It is a good trade for both teams
Sign nobody unless another starting pitcher with good upside washes up on the shore. Extend Ichiro.
How is Ryan Franklin a free agent? I thought Gillick gave him a 2 year deal?
Or has it been 2 years already?
JoeM said: Me
Joe Mays? Seriously? I’d rather have Fat-elvys.
Alright my answer in #10 broke the rules by giving more than one name so here’s try #2…….
Backloaded: Andy Pettitte 1 yr/$10M…. with $6M deferred… easily the best arm on the market this year assuming Roger retires and ignoring a certain posted player. Frankly he is the only arm on the market thats actually worth the contract he got (or in the case of the unsigned guys…will get)…
Alright, I just broke the rules again but damn it, I want them to win… Here goes another try…
More in spirit with the question: Mark Mulder (assuming he’s signable for $10M or under)… he’s got the rep, has playoff experience, is a lefty, is a *workhorse*, he’s an extreme groundball pitcher which plays to the defense (see folks we’re really smart), yadda, yadda, yadda…. we’ll ignore the injury and the peripherals… Truthfully, I’d probably go for it with a sensible duration.
other guys: Baptista/Suppan
Off topic: I have no freakin’ idea how Soriano+Ramirez (>$2.2M) is a better deal than Thomson at $4-5M……
Derek – noone can answer your question because there isn’t a good answer, right? At this point, I’d probably dangle a couple of established players for prospects, and go into rebuild mode. It ain’t happenin’ this year. Mediocre hitting, poor rotation, bad bullpen. I’d be in on anyone coming off injury or explainable bad performance with a low-risk, low-$ contract, and put an option at the back end.
Choices: Mark Mulder, Eric Gagne, Chan Ho Park (this is not *that* crazy – he’s got more upside than Jeff Fricken Suppan), what’s the difference? I’d have been in on Kerry Wood and Octavio Dotel, too, for the same reason. They’re all for next year, anyway.
I hope to hell that they can Bavasi prior to the trade deadline, as the M’s will be sellers with a lot to gain. That’s when you move Sexson, not now.
$.4 million to lure Rich Amaral out of retirement, and $9 million (including travel expenses) for the experimental surgery in India that converts him into a league-average MLB pitcher, with the rest going into production costs for the Rick Rizzs/Rich Amaral 1995, 12 Years Later DVD.
Mark Mulder
I don’t like any of the remaining options. But Mulder is the only interesting guy who will be available on a one-year deal. If you are going to sign a pitcher in a market that doesn’t have any real good options, go for the short-term deal.
Mulder has some upside too. With a team option for 2008, it makes sense.
Tony Armas Jr. is a distant second.
#136– how old is Beau Amaral these days? He used to do a wicked Randy Johnson when he was about 6….
I’d go for Mulder, but considering he probably doesn’t want to play here, I’d bet on Chan Ho Park. Oh, and maybe John Thomson with what’s left. (Yeah, I know, pick ONE guy.)
Well, the name you’re looking for is Suppan. And really in terms of ERA 🙂 and xFIP he’s not a lot worse than Schmidt and better than Lilly or Schmidt. So relative to the market that would be a deal, even if he’s only a 3 win player.
But I’d gamble on Mulder. Either last year’s HR% and LOB% were a fluke because he was hurt and he could return to star form or he’s done and he’ll retire.
Oops, meant to say “better than Lilly or Meche”. I have Schmidt on the brain (insert your own joke here).
If we go off xFIP, it’s definitely Suppan…
Roger Clemens
You forgot your sarcasm tags, Slov.
Brian Moehler
I see you picked Jeff Suppan. I don’t disagree enough to pick a compelling alternative. Suppan will work.